This is a discussion on EDD in November 2009 within the Year 2011 and earlier Mummy forum, part of the Mummy Meeting Place category; sufeit0115: ya , i'm also thinking of doing 'power pumping' over the weekend, thats when we are free my total ...
sufeit0115: ya , i'm also thinking of doing 'power pumping' over the weekend, thats when we are free my total yield dropped again for today by 30ML. so sian
yyt47: personally i think is to drain the breasts 'dry' so i'll continue pumping. there are times when my breasts are like 'no more milk' and then suddenly let down so can get another 40ML out.
for me, i'm still shelving the FM idea; it's a evil idea and once start introducing FM i feel that its like i have someething to fall back on and wun persist in maintaining my supply.
like you, i am aiming for minimum 6 months but with my work travel coming up, that seems an even bigger challenge.
Did you try pumping during the night? I heard if you pump during the night (~ since 12 am to 6 am), you have more milk during the day. On my personal experience it works. However I feed my son during the day also. Actually I was planning to return to my work when my son is 6 month old, but after reading your posts deceded to wait a half year more...
cony: Yes, to 'build up stock' i am pumping twice through the night - 1AM & 4AM. my night pumps always yield the most milk for me personally, i would try to latch on as much as i can, before and after work, and on weekends. partly to keep the supply going and partly to keep 'stock' for times that i am really away.
if work is flexible enough to extend returning to work, and you want to keep up to complete BF-ing, it would not be as tough after the child turns 6 months versus now. when the child turns 6 months, by then you'll be introducing some semi-solids and won't need as much milk to 'keep her full and growing well' as compared to the first 6 months when she is on a full milk diet.
i wished i can defer going back to work
sufeit0115: i will try and persists. today supply seems slightly better, 2nd pump of the day in office and i got 400ML total *phew* 1 more pump session, but that's usually pathetic
i was at the polyclinic the other day, for M's 3-month development test and jab~~ and M did me proud!! lol!!!
the nurse was looking at the monitor of her com.. then she started asking, without looking at M or me," can he lift/support his head already?" then she turn around and said, " ok." i never even need to ans her question!! hahahaha..
cuz M was sitting on my lap, hands on the table, with my arm as his back-rest.. hahahaha.. now, i dont even need to support his head/ neck.. i tried putting him in a walker the other day, with a pillow squeeze behind him, so he can prop himself up better.. and he manage to move the whole walker with him inside by kicking the floor!!
sufeit0115:We should motivate each other in being positive and not giving up BF-ing
I managed to express 640ML and latch on 4 times today - and this cycle starts again at 4AM when i start my first pump session for the day.
So tiring, but very worth it when i open the freezer and see the milk. I never knew seeing packs and packs of EBM can give me such highs~ haha. My new obsession is the amount of milk i have each day.
Another tip which my parents believe in and has been useful for me - fish soup. What they do is to go to the market and buy those nasi lemak fish (kuning fish) and take a few slices of ginger and boil soup. Boil the fish until it becomes 'lan lan' and throw away all the fish & ginger and drink the soup. (May not be the best tasting soup in the world with a slight fishy taste)The market sellers & my grandma taught my parents this - works for me. you may want to try this.
Alternatively you may want to try sacred tea or fenugreek. I have not personally tried it but some mummies swear by it
BbpHir3: Woah, not bad! good supply you have going there!!!
Last edited by adelynn; 26-02-2010 at 11:09 PM.
yup yup!! it was bout 3oz, for the first night.. then it went up to bout 5-6oz on the forth try/ night.. i was lyk..OMG!!! lol!!!!!!!!!!
mommies.. i noticed most of you did pumping.. i have not't used my pump for about 2 months already.. i'm curious to find out how much my boy took cos the last time he had FM it was 160-180ml but since his constipation problem he's been fully breastfed for nearly 2months now. BUT i have a problem.. my nipple would be sore and painful even when i pump for 10min. i'm using medela mini electric.. i didn't set it to max. so what's wrong?? can anyone guide me how to use.
also i've been trying to get back to old routine, giving 1 feed of FM at night so i can have some sleep, cos my boy latch on every 1-1.5hr once day and night.. i'm sleep deprived.. BUT he hates the bottle and kept pushing the teat out of his mouth.. what should i do???
another possibility is that he does not like the teats you are using. my girl was a fussy one, and finally stuck unto tommee tippee after changing 4 or 5 brands *phews*
If i have tons of EBM stored in the freezer, i would be delighted & proud too!! Cos $$ can't buy breast milk and they are the best nutritous food for our precious.
set alarm clock and drag myself outta bed . i got think of skipping the 4AM session cuz my last session for the day is at 12-1AM but when i think in terms of the no. of feeds i can give her with that 4AM milk ( about 1 1/2) i still drag myself outta bed.
tiring is tiring & since i just return to work, am still slowly adjusting to this routine. just keep on telling myself giving up is not an option. hah
Keep up the good work!
no it's always my hubby cos he always do the night duty last time.. but i did tried when my hubby failed this time but my boy still refused. will try other brand of bottle then.. thanks..
any advise on the sore/painful nipple using breast pump???
anyway.. i have some tips to share for boosting milk supply.. my mum cooked peanut soup during my confinement 3-4times a week and until now my milk supply is good. buy those packet peeled penuts, put in slow cooker and add some sugar. hth
i think like BF-ing, our breasts/nipples need to get used to the breast pump. i started off with some discomfort when i switch to 50% pump 50% latch but soon got used to it.
Salute to all mummies doing the power pumping....i am feeling guilty reading this cos i am only pumping the normal times..heee...however since i have enough milk for my gal did not think of pumping more....needed rest since i also had to take care of my hyperactive #1 kid.... Highest record for the day i had was about 700ml...
some tips i would like to share...I always bring along with me a tumbler of plain water whereever i go, whether out or at home...keep drinking & refill....so i think drinking plenty of water helps...
The fish soup that adelynn was recommending definately helps as i had been taking that ever since confinement ...but my fish soup added those raw papaya (to make it sweeter....put some rock sugar too..) Try it for those who wants natural way of increased milk supply..
Touchwood so far supply not yet drop thou i have returned to work for a wk....
the problem starts when he's 1.5 month old i stop the fm and fully latch him on 24/7. so ever since he rejected the bottle, i tried using EBM also he reject.
but now i'm sleep deprived and wish to go back into the old routine, giving him EBM once at night so i could have 4-5hours straight of sleep. and i bought the tomee tippee bottle today, tried just now and he still refused..
may i know if your girl take a few times to accept the tomee tippee bottle?? or she took it the 1st time you gave it to her??
yyt47: i am not really doing the 'full fledged' power pumping my daily output is slightly more than sufficient to meet her daily needs. what i am trying to do is to 'build stores' in my freezer cuz i have upcoming business travel trips, which i will be away for a week or 2 at a time.
sufeit0115: jiayou! we are all motivating each other to continue BF-ing. another thing i realized is that when i store my EBM in bottles of various amounts, there tends to be more wastage as compared to when i store them in sticks of 30ML. my parents are very supportive of me BF-ing and dedicated a full freezer to Stevlynn's food and instilling very strong values in my helper on non-wastage of milk.
honeylicious: i've read from books that in order to prevent rejection of bottles a bottle should be introduced no later than 6 weeks old on a regular basis - which is why i started the bottle with her at 6 weeks.
when he rejects the bottle what does he do? trust his tongue out to push the teat away from his mouth? my sister-in-law had a very harsh way of teaching her son how to take the bottle - let him go hungry and if he cries try the bottle again and again until he takes it. but that is AFTER she tried several types of bottles/teats and all fails. Result: he drinks now from bottles
she had 5 or 6 tries before she finally 'knew' how to drink from tommee tippee teats. what i also did was warm up the teat before feeding it to her; it helped her take to the bottle.
another factor to consider is the temperature of the milk. some babies are picky and drink only when EBM is warmed up to a certain temperature. that requires trial-an-error to get the right temperature.
Jiayou to those pumping and good job for wanting to keep giving the babies the best despite being busy at work..so grateful that I can drag on my leave even though its NPL but I guess it's worth it to see my gal grow each day.. Dread the day that I need to return to work cos I dont think I am so capable to handle work and home...I admire you all who have been doing so..
Pumping at night more milk? I shall go try.. So far for me the first pump in the morning has the most collected..
yes my son kept pushing the teat out with the tounge.. but the ebm that came out from the teat he just swallow.. he just doesn't want to suckle!!! then after 10-15min i guess he goes hungry and cried loudly.. my son very seldom cry.. so once he did i dont't have the heart to keep forcing him..
i do standby a cup of hot water and kept re-dipping the bottle to make sure it's warm.. but still fail to feed him.. and i did warm up the teat too..
may i ask what age is your sis-in-law baby when she intro the bottle?? it's been only 7week since i stop the bottle.. i kinda regret stopping the old routine.. may i also know if your baby is on total ebm?? or she does latch on too??
i think my modified version of power pumping on Sat worked a little - i power pumped for 18 minutes (3 mins per breast) thrice on Sat after her feeds and today despite doing full latch on, i managed to pump twice and get 510ML.
Honeylicious: no prob, we are all first time mummies with our own sets of struggles, so good to have each other to 'bounce' ideas off and 'solve' obstacles together?
my sis-in-law only introduced the bottle when her son was 2 1/2 months old - 2 weeks before she went back to work. i would suggest trying again with the same teat for a couple more times, each time offering the bottle and if he fusses too much then offer your breast - but not overly anxious. babies are smart and will know our 'weakness' dont get dishearten, it takes time for them to learn or unlearn the bottle, and given their age, they will learn over time. patience does it
before my girl took to the bottle, she was like your son, refusing to drink from the teat, but willing to drink milk which flows out from the teat. what i did was to continue to put the teat in her mouth and 'help' her drink by pressing against the teat to let milk flow out.
BTW, LCs in KK recommended me to use pigeon teats - reason quoted was that it's the teats closest to mummy's breast. if you have any standard bottles @ home, you can save $ and just buy the teats to try it out. so that even if he rejects, at least you waste on $5 or so.
my girl is on both latch ons and EBM via bottle. latch ons for feedings which i am at home and bottle for those which i'm not. i find latch ons more convenient when i am at home but i consciously remind myself that i cannot let her 'prefer' mummy to bottle or i may never regain independence/freedom.
i will try pigeon bottle next.. no choice gotta buy the bottle cos i dont't have any that can fit it's teat..
what if my boy still refuse?? sigh.. does that mean he will never want to take bottle?? as he grew older it will be more difficult to teach him right???