RamblingMummy... Thx for the tips!
This is a discussion on milk supply within the General Pregnancy Discussion forum, part of the Pregnancy Forum category; my son drink hrly too... very tiring but for his good, i continue till around 6mths when i was skinny ...
my son drink hrly too... very tiring but for his good, i continue till around 6mths when i was skinny like taking drugs and always fall sick. haha.. then i finally stop the milk but my frozen last him till 7-8 mths.
RamblingMummy... Thx for the tips!
Thanks rambling mummy! You are our online lactation consultant. I really realLy hope I will be successful this round...hope cf lady and hubby be 100% supportive...I really want it to work this time...
hope munmy to be dont't give yrself too much stress.
for me, initially cannot meet the demand of my baby in first week , was depressed but i tell myself totally nothing wrong if i supplement with FM, what most important is out baby is well.
so i supplement FM at night and diligently keep pumping and finally i got enough and plenty to freeze:-)
some say totally do not give FM , insist breast milk or else baby might reject etc. but baby too hungry and keep crying.
lucky mine did not reject either FM or breast milk so yours might be the lucky one if you encounter such problem.
Haha.. Im no lactation consultant. I learn frm trial n error n had help frm the breastfeeding mummy support grp forum. Fellow mummies kept me goin n im still learning
Alisa how you manage to feed hourly n still pump to store? How long each time you latch? My baby can latch for 3-4 hours and I dont't get to pump at all when I full time latching her
For those who are successful, during the first few weeks, do you constantly put baby to the breast whenever baby demands? With my first I kept thinking feeding must be 3-hourly, but as I find out more, it seems that we must put baby to breasts more than that, like constantly.
If you have a confinement lady or mother in law or Mum come help you, do you also just keep putting baby to breasts? Do you just dont care about those people around you? How do you manage? I am so scared and think I may be pressurised if they say 'Wow how come you put putting baby to your breasts?? Are you crazy or what?'
i express when he was still in hospital due to jaundice then after he came back home i never express for that 1 month. only when my husband wanted me to rest more, he feed formula during night for 2nd month so i express and store. then my freezer is getting full so i feed my frozen milk and stored fresh milk. Then i realised by express alone, my milk supply is decreasing so i return to latch on full again. i did not express every 3hrly, i only express 3 times a day. 7am, 12pm then 5pm then at night i latch on so i dont have to express or my husband will help to feed formula. Cuz to -froze milk is very troublesome especially when you are half awake. my son feeding hr will change monthly. 1st month is every hrly, 2nd month was around 1-2 hrly. only when he was around 4-5mths old then around 3 hrly.
For me, my babies were the sleepy sort so i had to wake them up every 3hrs to feed especially the first 2mths. Thereafter, baby will ask for feed. Even wen i was doing the 3hrly, if the baby cries for milk, i still give. I dont care about what ppl say. Initially they will say things like "you dont have enuf milk that is y bby cries for milk all the time", or "poor baby, so skinny", or "you givin milk again?!" it got to me initially but i hd this
forum to keep me goin n some friends who r pro breastfeeding. So i just ignore.
Now they see tht my bby has put on weight, they say, "wow! your mummy must b givin you very good milk!"
I was surrounded by ppl who were not into breastfeeding but after 3mths, i managed to convince my hubby, my mum, my mother in law. So just ignore negative comments.
My mother in law also not very supportive when she is doing confinement for my 1st child.....she will keep coming in my room when i bf and ask me drink so long ? or still drinking? ok already , 15mins ......etc. Then keep telling my husband that my girl doesn't like my nipple...........i was so demoralized at that point of time.
at least we know that we can get lots of support from forum, and other breastfeeding mummy. the older generation only know how to fire with negative comments, hate it when my mother in law help me with confinement.
Me too. I regreted not insist.on breastfeeding for the first wk. I also didnt pump regularly as i was.in.the.hospital.and.just.gone.thru c.sect and the pain was hindering me from bf-ing. Only started.regular.pumping after i dischrage by then my baby was bottle fed and had nipple confusion bcoz my mum insist on feeding with bottle.instead of cup.
So now i am religiously pumping 4hrly but only getting around 100mls per session from both breast. Not able to latch her on as her cries will make me feel.more stress and hemce reduce.my.let down. And she will be.more frustrated. Luckily my friend who just delivered too, bless me with.her ebm as she got oversupply hence i am able to start total breast milk for my baby.
So for my 2nd baby which we plan to conceive nxt yr, i will definitely make.sure i ignored all the negative comments and strive on. Afterall, this is.my first.child and as.a FTM, We ourselves are also learning. So i will strive on to give watever i have to my baby. No matter now.little it is. So all mummh who is out that struggling and battling with the -ve comments about bf-ing, dont not give up bcoz you know you are.not alone! mummies here who are pro breast feeding stands with you!!!
most of us have something in common- facing negative comments. Just do not let it get to you. It is especially hard coz you kuz delivered, you r too tired coz your body has not adjusted yet n there these ppl keep giving you such negative comments instead of the support you need. However, with time, they will realise tht breastfeeding has its benefits. I managed to convince hubby 1st. He was actually more concerned of me being tired frm bf. then managed to convince my mum n mother in law. I managed to convince my mum n mother in law simply by keeping quiet when they made remarks n just continued to bf. coz from 2-3mths onwards, they wil see tht bby is growing well. Now my mum is one of the pro bf ppl. She encourages mothers to bf coz she said it is easier n bbies are less cranky. Go out no need to take bottle or carry too many things
Usually babies have reserve and can go without milk for a few days. However, do listen to your gynae if advise otherwise. My supply came in on 3rd day. Gynae advised on day 1 to supplement FM for baby as she was born at ~2kg and may not have enough reserve. Baby was on FM during hospital stay and first feed after discharge. After which TBM.... hang in there for all mummies who want to breastfeed. It's tough but definitely rewarding.
So do you all latch and pump? If were to latch on demand for first few weeks to simulate the milk, when do you start pumping? And when you start pumping, you will introduce bottle feed to baby or keep it frozen for future use?
Need to get more advice before the days come. Many thanks.
I latched on right after my c sec delivery and continued the latch on during the hospital stay. During the stay, I also pumped but as its colostrum, the Amt is very little. So I expressed by hand instead into a syringe. This way, there's very little wastage.
When back, I only do latch on as the wound is still quite sore. I bf lying on the bed so it's more comfortable.
After confinement, I pump during the day, every three to four hours. From 12 midnight, I do latch on.
I start pump n latch only after a month. Before that strictly latch. I found diz
better as compared to when i had my 2nd bby n i pump and latch immediately after birth. What happened was my let-dwn became very fast due to this and thus my girl always chokes on the mill when breastfeeding coz flow of milk became fast. So for my 3rd bby, i just latch for slightly more than a month before starting to pump. She has never choked on the milk before.
However, not all mummies have experience like mine. SOme pump n latch frm birth but bby does not choke on milk.
I read in a mag tht ideally, i you want to introduce bottle for ebm, you shld start around 6wks. By then bby wil not have nipple confusion n wil not likely reject the bottle
recommended to pump only after a month so that mommy will not be discouraged on the amt expressed and also to encourage to latch the baby as often as possible to establish milk supply and demand.
let's all perserver bfeeding moms. i am on my 4th month and supply is a bit low and i am going to start work on monday. i hope i can keep up
for me, 100% latch on initially and started to latch and pump 3rd week onwards. i freeze the ebm and started to introduce bottle from week 5 with 1 bottle feed per day and slowly increasing the frequency. on the last day of week 5, i had to introduce 2 bottle feed (there were visitors at my place and i didn't want to 'hide' baby away for an hour to direct feed and they are not able to see baby). baby did had nipple confusion the next day and resulted in engorgement for me coz baby is sucking and not suckling. it was the most terrible day as baby is hungry and keep crying every hour but not able to get much milk from latching on. we went on to syringe feed baby and so as to try and 'undo' the nipple confusion. i continue to pump out the milk. after a couple of feed using syringe, baby is able to latch on and suckle again. i think it depends on baby whether will have nipple confusion. i know some babies who has no problem switching between the 2...
very important to perserve and support from hubby makes things easier...
I'm soooo thankful of all the comments given here! Being a first time mum, I really had no idea and as I said most of my friend gave their babies FM.
I'm due anytime now.. So when baby is born request for TBF right? And get a lactation nurse to assist me... Then every 3 hours feed baby even if he doesn't cry... Even if the first few days, the flow is little, just continue to let baby latch when he's crying right?
I spoke to my husband about TBF and he seems very supportive.. He said now must convince my own parents as they're staying with us. Since this will be their first grandchild, my husband is quite worried if my mom is not pro BF.
many thanks to mummies advice here.
Yes diza. you got everything rite i think it is easier to convince your own parents than in-laws. One of the difficulties i faced was ppl coming over to visit n i had to breastfeed. My mum was unhappy dat i had to excuse myself to breastfeed when guests came. So i told my mum, if tht's the case, then tell the ppl not to come over till after a month or so as i need to breastfeed my bby. Initially she was unhappy but after a while, she understood.
hi all, just to share my personal experience..
i delivered my baby 2 months ago & she is still on TBF. after delivery, the nurses let my baby latch on & then force me to wake her to feed her every 3 hours even though nothing was coming out. I had actually not read up on anything before delivering & was initially very worried if my baby was starving. One of the nurses taught me how to massage my boobs & after she demo-ed on 1 side very painfully, some drops of milk did come out.
after i got home, i tried to feed on demand even w/o milk & just latch on the baby everytime she cry. finally on day 4 i felt my boobs become very hard & painful. it was quite demoralizing when my mum kept saying i didnt feed her enough and it was wrong to feed her on demand blah blah, which caused her to cry at very short intervals,sometimes every hour, but i just ignore her & continued. after she realised there was no way to stop the baby crying except by feeding her, she had no choice but to go along. i tried pumping but there was nothing much to pump as the baby fed every 1-2 hours.
after 1 month, i brought the baby for checkup & she had gained 1.5kg since birth! which was a pleasant surprise and sorta proved to my mum that the baby did have enough food. i tried pumping again then since the baby seems to be feeding with slightly longer interval and i managed to get 3oz from both boobs. I was very happy as this allowed me to leave the baby with my parents and when I was away from the baby, there would be more time to accumulate breastmilk to pump out when I reached home. I've about 7 bottles of 4oz accumulated in the freezer so far (usually each 4oz bottle takes about 24 hours of accumulated pumping). The only thing I find troublesome about feeding on demand is that it can happen anywhere anytime when you are outside, & so far, some of the more embarrassing situations are - I've had to breastfeed in the MRT /bus / taxi / while walking through the Harry Potter exhibition The sarong/wrap used for carrying the baby came in very useful in such situations as it covers both my front and back.
I wished someone had given me this advice, but as long as the baby is pooping fine the first few days, (very little pee as the baby is not drinking much), the baby is getting enough milk. there is no need to stress yourself! also, drink lots of water to replenish as I almost got dehydrated (my lips became very chapped & peeling if I didnt take enough liquids). Also, try to drink at least 2 glasses of water during breastfeeding & after. it helps increase milk supply!
My experience was close to ramblingmum's. Had oversupply n fast milk flow too. I was too kiasu n pumped too much. For my second baby, I'll not pump but latch on demand for the first month to avoid this problem. I also received a lot of negative comments from ppl. I didn't do baby shower as I was too depressed too. Was crying even when guests came to visit n these visits were extremely stressful for me. For second baby, I won't accept visits until baby is a month old. So stressful when I was frustrated n upset with breastfeeding n caring for baby as first time mum n I had to smile n act everything is ok. I guess I scared my in laws when I couldn't stop crying one evening n they told guests to come at later date. I am so happy that I persevered n have been giving baby TFB until now. Can't believe he's coming to one year old! Have been bf him for close to a year! I didn't know I could do it!