even my son is having a hard time coping and hes only primary 1 he gets confuse with wats 1 more then 17 but 1 less 19
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Saw a question post at Test-paper.info :: Your one stop guide to Singapore School Assessment Papers and Examination Test Papers on a primary six question for the CA1 and I could not solve it!!! Didn't know the standard nowadays are so high. I wonder how are the kids coping now.... so sad...
even my son is having a hard time coping and hes only primary 1 he gets confuse with wats 1 more then 17 but 1 less 19
ya..i feel that this type of question is actually testing english rather than maths. my boy finds it difficult too, especially those type of..
___ more than 9 is 15
6 more than ____ is 20
7 more than 5 is ______
____ is 9 more than 2
6 is ____ more than 3
7 is 5 more than ____
___ less than 9 is 5
6 less than ____ is 20
7 less than 15 is ______
____ is 9 less than 12
6 is ____ less than 13
7 is 5 less than ____
you see is it test english a not?
Sometimes, it is the silent spaces in a relationship that speak most clearly.
hi,
in our side (hong kong),for kids' math,
only one word from me: "hard",
lucky it is not as senior math topic like "caculus" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi all,
I also do agree that the maths papers is a test of English. My daughter is facing this problem as well. But dont't know why some of her classmates can score very high marks (mock tests and practice papers though) lei. My husband was saying why are they having this kind of maths at P1. He said at P1 they shouldn't be having this kind of questions!
dont't schools conduct workshops for parents to tackle on tough subjects/topics ? It will be good to have such sessions. I guess, in future, i will have to bother my sister In law who is a primary school teacher.
Looks like if topics are getting tougher these days, parents will have to buy texts early to orientate themselves first. So when the kids have qs for us, we may be of help....probably!
would be great if we could have our own group workshops (according to areas) conducted by acquaintances who are teachers or even forummers here who are primary school teachers. Teaching us methods to tackle tough topics.
Personally, i dont't mind paying for their services if it is going to be beneficial. (pssssttt....voluntarily would be better, ) If we have to wait for the respectives schools to conduct educational workshops....well, gotta wait 'long long '
Anyone here wants to start the ball rolling in organizing it ? Do announce it here in the forum.
Its really so hard to be a child in this new era.
I really pity them. There simply any childhood fun, especially those kids that are slower in absorbing what was taught, they need tution just to get by with the daily homework...its tough....
I had been a tution teacher for years and I saw the changes in the syllabus, its way to extreme, in my point of view. In no time, the secondary school students will be study what the Uni are teaching now.
*sigh*
I must confess that I was fuming as well when I saw the maths test papers for my P1 boy. Certain concepts are way beyond what we learnt in P2 or 3 during our time.
I am no child expert in the area of mathematical concept acquisition but I think what we could do is to concretise the experience for them. I tried some techniques myself which I wrote about in my blog.
You could read it and try it out.
why do i keep seeing all those gold, war etc which have no link to all the disccusson?
can moderator pls do something about it?
my boy also get confuse over these kinda maths.
i try to give him example.... and maybe take pencils out to show him 1 more then 5.... so i took 5 pencils out and then add one more in and told him more means plus...
Mine too gets very confused especially for problem sums which require 2 or more steps. I just signed him up for MPM maths which is supposed to help kids with higher order thinking...
Long long ago .... during mada cheng tay ko time, my Maths was great! I like so pro, can even give tuitions!
Now, I look at my P5 son's Maths I dont dare challenge him . I see the complexity = blur. Lazy to damage my brain cells, otherwise, I sure get more grey hairs. P5 std almost like my Sec 3.
So kids now forced to learn harder stuff to make entry to you more difficult? or more kids to suffer depression, matured faster, get more grey hair/stress? Really dont like this kind of style
I open a thread at Help & tips http://www.mummysg.com/forums/f5/whe...ors-gone-5072/ but seemed like no moderators around to answer/delete all those irrelevance. Wonder is this site still being maintained?
I agreed with mummies here. Maths in Primary school is a test of English language command understanding and resolving it in a mathematical way with step by step to correct answers. At any step, it will be awarded point, it does not mean that student got correct answer, they will get full marks for that sum.
Teacher did feedback that students that get the answers are majority due to they do not understand the english question and minority is student do not understand how to solve it by steps to the correct answers.
So parents needs to look for enrichment classes that provide step by step working, as I know some kids can get the correct answers straightaway...xin suan....etc...
with 2 wonderful kids.
Most of the teachers ..... esp those from the top schools do not teach as much as those from the neighbourhood schools. This is a fact. They expect students to get help if they cannot cope with the pace of the majority. So parents ended up putting their kids in tuition classes. Like it or not, this seems to be a norm and we just have to cope with it unless you do not mind your children lagging behind their classmate and learn at their own pace!
Just my two cents worth
to do maths well, english foundation is very important....
so, it's best to train the kid's english.....
practice and practice... no choice... sigh
Just to share a tip with all. I started maths daily with my boy when he is 2 and play with him using lego cube. And by doing so, I will use words like more than, less than, between etc. And my boy will form the number using lego cubes. In the same way, we used lego cube to work on addition and subtraction.
As a trained teacher (on npl), I think it is important to help the child appreciate maths in daily life and integrate it with English that helps. Make maths a part of daily life will help. Like for measurement, my boy helps me in baking and from there we do problem solving since I do not have a weighing scale in the kitchen and he has to help me by deciding how to using those measuring cups and spoons to get the correct amount and these develop his thinking and problem-solving scale. And he also helps his dad diluting car wash detergent with water where he will add in the correct amount of water to the detergent. Now that he is coming to 5, he has process from lego cubes to marbles to make learning more funs for him together with Jelly cups that we work on addition, subtraction, multiplication and division. We started him on learning time-tables through songs recently and he was able to recite some of the time-tables and we supplement by explaining to him the concept behind through groups. Here's what I used for learning Time-tables,
As for word problems, there are many books in populars that will help parents if they are willing to go through those problem-solving skills themselves and work out those problem before explaining to their children. Basically, the children in P1 and P2 learn about Part/Whole method and from there it is built on. Books by Fabian Ng (Challenging Problem Solving Maths has examples given to help the parents or child to coach them along the way.). Fabian Ng is a very well-known Maths Educator and he also conducted courses and seminars for both parents and students to help them understand the concept behind each time of word problems. If I am not wrong, FanMaths also has such examples. I would not tell more as the last time that I was at Popular BookStore was in March buying books for my boy as we were preparing for our relocation to Sydney after been home for a break from Vancouver due to dear husband's posting. It will also be good to start your child on Maths Olympiad for Primary School (There are 5 books available in Popular Bookstore from Book 1 for P1 and P2 all the way to P6.)
If in anyway I can help to solve maths problem sum, pm me. I might not reply straight away as I am busy doing my PV Maths Worksheets for the school that we have decided to enroll my boy for his Primary School education in Singapore and also I am homeschooling my boy. But I will workout the solution and explain how it is workout.
priscilla, where did you get the Sing and Learn timetable from ? I am interested to find out more.
So, does it come in VCD or CD ? How much does it cost ? TIA
Hi Priscilla,
Nice to know another tr, I'm new here.
It's gr8 2 hear your sharin here!
I agree that d syllabus has changed a lot since ..
nevertheless as parents we sh try 2 b more active in coachin our children, usin eg in daily life before they enter sch. It helps them 2 b ENGAGED w MOE intiative - Teach Less Learn More ..