IVF

[lawla12]

Originally Posted by Catherine & Raymond I am like most of you here in this thread, i have gone through IUI or IVF and finally got pregnant on my 2nd attempt on IVF. IMO, if dr has identified the reason for not able to conceive naturally, dont waste time in going through IUI. I went through 2-4 cycles on clomid, 3 cycles on IUI and 2 cycles IVF..... all in the span of 5 yrs. If you are already in your thirties and money permits and mentally and physically prepared, be determined, please go straight for IVF, dont waste time Once you hit the age of 35 yrs old, the egg quality drops and also the no. of eggs you can produce with hormones injection also drop... I hesitated to go on with the treatment when i failed 3 cycles of IUI and waited for another 1 1/2 yrs before i went for my 1st IVF, at that time i am already 34 yrs old... the dr "harvested" 12 healthy eggs and after fertilisation only 6 good ones... and planted 3 fertilised embryos ... the other 3 embryos frozen.... after 2 weeks period came..... Devastated and down ....... after 1 year later, with determination and support from hubby and family members, went for 2nd IVF and planted the 3 frozen embryos. This time took leave from work and no phone calls or email from work, total bed rest, no climbing of stairs and survived boredom with watching korean drama and reading magazines & novel. when the blood test shows high level of HGC.....and dr says possibly with 2 babies, was stunned and lost for words.... got back home and hugged my mother in law.... i gave birth to my twins last year at age of 37 yrs old. Good luck to all of you...... I believe in order God to help us, 1st we have to help ourselves.... do something

ya ya...my gynae also told me dont waste time n $ on IUI for my case cos i went thr 2 failed IUIs....

now, i'm saving up for my IVF yaaa....really alot of $$$$ n i'm early 30s too (time is running out liaooo).....

btw, can i check where did you go your IVF n how much did you spend??? you took injections instead of clomid izzi ? how much "ml" did you inject daily?

[pumpkin101]

Originally Posted by tigermummy Thanks Catherine & Raymond for your cheerful story, and big big congrats to you for you finally make it and have two lovely kids. I am ready for IVF, however doctor wants me to do IUI first, I am not sure the reason behind, I dont know if IUI is a necessary step to do before IVF. Honestly, I dont want to go through IUI again next month, they want me take rest this month. I will try to talk to doctor this week to raise my concern, if they still want me to try IUI, I think I may want to change to another hospital to see if I can go for IVF directly.

hi laohormummy... if you want to go IVF directly I doubt doc will oppose. Perhaps suggesting to you on doing IUI first could be due to your age. My doc told me to go for IUI as I have not't hit 38. 1stly because of my age and 2ndly maybe is because I was able to conceive the 1st time. Good news if clomid works for me and had 2 eggs during my last visit. HOWEVER, my traditional chinese medicine during my previous visit told me not to waste my money for IUI yet as my womb is not in the state to do so. She just doesn't want me to go to a war unprepared. I really think we have to make sure our condition is right before doing/going for any treatment. She told me if I were to go before my womb is ready, not only $$$ draining, emotional too as who likes to accept failure right. So now, basically patient patient.... then chioooooooong ahhhhh....

dua huat sia. may all the laohor kia come to those who are trying to concieve.... *roarrrrr*

[babycoco]

Hi

I am new to this thread. However, would like to share on my experience with you.

Both my hubby and I have been trying to concieve since 3 years ago. Finally have the courage to undergo IVF as suggested by my gyn. We have undergone a few tests.
ME: I went thru FSH test to check my hormone level as well as HSG to make sure that my tubes are not blocked.
dear husband: Went for SA test. Result not good. Low sperm count, density and shape.

As such, I have went thru my first IVF ER and ET in Oct 2009. 10 eggs retrieved and 8 fertilized with . 2 arrested during fertilization. 3 embryos of 8 cell were transfered during ET. I did suffered from mild OHSS and was hospitalized for 2 days. After two weeks, i was tested neg.

Doc then decided to monitor my ovulation pattern before proceed with FET.
After 3 months of monitoring, I started my FET cycle this month, 3 thaws embryos were transfer and i did not survive during the unthaw process. Again waited for two weeks (in between chinese new year period) but just a few days ago, my AF started. All my hopes gone.

Went back to see doc yesterday, doc suggested that I start IUI but without medication, just natural cycle since he knew that I am ovulating and able to produce egg. Problem lies on my dear husband.

But just wondering why return back to IUI given that I have 1 fail IVF and 1 fail FET.

Any one has such encountered like mine.... I am just worried about the success rate for IUI. Doc says is just a matter of luck where a good egg met a good solder.

[Ashleyhope]

Hi,

Have any of you done the acupuncture? Does it work?

[mami2009]

Hi,

Can anyone tell me in more details what to expect when 1st go for IVF? What should I do & expect from the doc & their staff?
I intend to do IVF with Dr LC Cheng..anyone with Dr Cheng? Can share info with me? I'm most welcome if you wanna pm me.. thank you for your precious info!!

[bakaholic]

Originally Posted by babycoco Hi I am new to this thread. However, would like to share on my experience with you. Both my hubby and I have been trying to concieve since 3 years ago. Finally have the courage to undergo IVF as suggested by my gyn. We have undergone a few tests. ME: I went thru FSH test to check my hormone level as well as HSG to make sure that my tubes are not blocked. dear husband: Went for SA test. Result not good. Low sperm count, density and shape. As such, I have went thru my first IVF ER and ET in Oct 2009. 10 eggs retrieved and 8 fertilized with . 2 arrested during fertilization. 3 embryos of 8 cell were transfered during ET. I did suffered from mild OHSS and was hospitalized for 2 days. After two weeks, i was tested neg. Doc then decided to monitor my ovulation pattern before proceed with FET. After 3 months of monitoring, I started my FET cycle this month, 3 thaws embryos were transfer and i did not survive during the unthaw process. Again waited for two weeks (in between chinese new year period) but just a few days ago, my AF started. All my hopes gone. Went back to see doc yesterday, doc suggested that I start IUI but without medication, just natural cycle since he knew that I am ovulating and able to produce egg. Problem lies on my dear husband. But just wondering why return back to IUI given that I have 1 fail IVF and 1 fail FET. Any one has such encountered like mine.... I am just worried about the success rate for IUI. Doc says is just a matter of luck where a good egg met a good solder.

Babycoco,
Perhaps your doc wants to do the less invasive mthd since you are prone to OHSS. It's strange to switch back to IUI after failed ivf but it does depend on SA result. If the % of normal sperm is too low, it's not feasible to do IUI.
Do you want to seek 2nd opinion before deciding?
There is no harm trying the IUI if the cost is not too high and it's less tough on your body.
Hope that helps...

[lawla12]

wonder how's babylemon + oink doing..........

[Peartree]

Originally Posted by Ashleyhope Hi, Have any of you done the acupuncture? Does it work?

Hiya,

I had acupuncture throughout my treatment, and on the week of Egg Retrieval and Transfer, 3 sessions: one just before ER, one on the morning of Embryo transfer, and one in the afternoon just after transfer. After that, I did two in the 2WW before my pregnancy test. I got my BFP yesterday after my ICSI cycle. I dont't know if it has helped, but it can't do any harm. Our bodies go through so much, it's worth it just to invest all you can in it to maximise your chances. My acupuncturist was really good and did relaxation breathing exercises as relaxation is a very important thing during your cycle - positive thinking, happy thoughts! Sometimes, conventional medicine will only get you 90% of the way there. There is that extra 10% that comes within yourself.

Good luck!

[Peartree]

Originally Posted by babycoco But just wondering why return back to IUI given that I have 1 fail IVF and 1 fail FET. Any one has such encountered like mine.... I am just worried about the success rate for IUI. Doc says is just a matter of luck where a good egg met a good solder.

Babycoco, do you know the underlying cause of your infertility? I'm just asking because it seems strange to give up on IVF after only one cycle. On average, it takes 3 cycles to work.

In my case, IUI would not have worked for us - we went straight to ICSI, as my hub's sperm count was too low.

[bubu]

Hi,

I heard that doctor will ususally give you MC to rest, can anyone advise how many days will the doctor give, I heard that they will give you maximum up to 14 days.

I'm thinking of trying IVF but thinking how to answer to my boss if I get 14 days of mc at a go.

[babylemon]

Hi lawla12 & all who have followed me fm this topic. My apologies for not posting any updates after my FET in Jan. Yes, I was too distraught for the past mths as my IVF failed.

Before the FET and during the 2ww, my health was not very good as I had a bad cough that wldnt go away. But anyway, Dr Cheng was also surprised that I was negative with a D4 embryo. that fateful test date, the nurses took my urine test but dare not speak to me. Eventually I had to wait very long before I cld see Dr Cheng. Again, he said it cld be due to many reasons. Maybe this method of ivf was not suitable for me. However he said the other method was more dangerous for OHSS carrier. There was no consolation or anythg, more imptly, I do not have the answer that I need - why exactly it did not work?

I'm not blaming the dr or nurses. Just blame myself that I had to go through all this and face this awful result by myself. After that when my menses arrive, I went through a bottomless pit of my life. I had a lot of crazy tots that my embies were flushed out fm my body. The CNY season did not make me feel any better. I am so scared of meeting people with babies or people asking me when when when...so I just stayed at home.

I needed a lot of consolation and couldnt share my unhappiness with anybody so I just cry everyday and every night. I didnt have any frozen embies to try again. So to start all over again is really scary. Some ppl said that it takes an average of 3 cycles to work. But this round meant a lot to me.

Unfortunately my prayers were not answered so today I am still back to square one. I am not trying to discourage anybody to go for ivf. Bcos if you never try, you wont know. Sorry, I really wish I can share a success story.

Perhaps to those who are on their journey to ivf, to do traditional chinese medicine/acupuncture at the same time to improve the blood flow to the womb and all. Maybe it can help.

For now, I have also gone back to traditional chinese medicine as my cycle is in the mess. Chances are very low as my temp has never go up to above 35degrees. Sigh, I am still trying my best not to give up. My journey continues...

[lawla12]

Originally Posted by babylemon Hi lawla12 & all who have followed me fm this topic. My apologies for not posting any updates after my FET in Jan. Yes, I was too distraught for the past mths as my IVF failed. Before the FET and during the 2ww, my health was not very good as I had a bad cough that wldnt go away. But anyway, Dr Cheng was also surprised that I was negative with a D4 embryo. that fateful test date, the nurses took my urine test but dare not speak to me. Eventually I had to wait very long before I cld see Dr Cheng. Again, he said it cld be due to many reasons. Maybe this method of ivf was not suitable for me. However he said the other method was more dangerous for OHSS carrier. There was no consolation or anythg, more imptly, I do not have the answer that I need - why exactly it did not work? I'm not blaming the dr or nurses. Just blame myself that I had to go through all this and face this awful result by myself. After that when my menses arrive, I went through a bottomless pit of my life. I had a lot of crazy tots that my embies were flushed out fm my body. The CNY season did not make me feel any better. I am so scared of meeting people with babies or people asking me when when when...so I just stayed at home. I needed a lot of consolation and couldnt share my unhappiness with anybody so I just cry everyday and every night. I didnt have any frozen embies to try again. So to start all over again is really scary. Some ppl said that it takes an average of 3 cycles to work. But this round meant a lot to me. Unfortunately my prayers were not answered so today I am still back to square one. I am not trying to discourage anybody to go for ivf. Bcos if you never try, you wont know. Sorry, I really wish I can share a success story. Perhaps to those who are on their journey to ivf, to do traditional chinese medicine/acupuncture at the same time to improve the blood flow to the womb and all. Maybe it can help. For now, I have also gone back to traditional chinese medicine as my cycle is in the mess. Chances are very low as my temp has never go up to above 35degrees. Sigh, I am still trying my best not to give up. My journey continues...

sry to hear that babylemon....

you've tried your very best....dont give up......the time will come.....one of my friend's colleague, she went thr 2 IVF but failed.....the couple decided not to have babies since they've tried evyting.....but guess what, 3mths later, the wife strike.....

smtimes tings r just so werid.....when you want it to come, it just refuse to come...but when you'r least expecting it, it APPEAR~

understand the pain you went thr....((though i not yet do IVF, but i know i will confirm break down if my IVF fail))....i'm a little unwillingly to do IVF cos its considered the highest chance of conceiving......but still i know if i dont go thr this, i will definitely regret esp when i'm getting olddddddddddd......

so just go for it...at least i know we've try our very best.....


take tis opportunity to rest ....go for a short holiday......we'll all support you yaaa...dont give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[shespice]

Hello,
I am just reading this thread and I admire the strength and determination of those of you who have gone through or are going through programs in order to get pregnant. I hope for the best for each one of you and believe that one day your desire of having a child would come true.
I have irregular menses since young and tested to have PCOS too so gynae said it would be difficult for me to conceive and also due to my age. Tried clomid and didn't help and I didn't go through IUI or IVF as suggested by gynae because I wasn't as brave as you all .
But I am blessed to have a daughter now and she is 16 months. She came after 14 years. I know its a long time and this is not to discourage anyone but rather I hope that you all would be encouraged to know that there is still hope for each one of you! I think sometimes when we least expect and when the "stress" of "needing" to get pregnant is put aside, the very thing will happen. Continue to believe for your gift and miracle.
Be encouraged because I was 42 when i finally conceived naturally and unexpectedly and gave birth at 43 for my 1st child . It is still possible for all of you k? Hugggzzzz

[lawla12]

Originally Posted by shespice Hello, I am just reading this thread and I admire the strength and determination of those of you who have gone through or are going through programs in order to get pregnant. I hope for the best for each one of you and believe that one day your desire of having a child would come true. I have irregular menses since young and tested to have PCOS too so gynae said it would be difficult for me to conceive and also due to my age. Tried clomid and didn't help and I didn't go through IUI or IVF as suggested by gynae because I wasn't as brave as you all . But I am blessed to have a daughter now and she is 16 months. She came after 14 years. I know its a long time and this is not to discourage anyone but rather I hope that you all would be encouraged to know that there is still hope for each one of you! I think sometimes when we least expect and when the "stress" of "needing" to get pregnant is put aside, the very thing will happen. Continue to believe for your gift and miracle. Be encouraged because I was 42 when i finally conceived naturally and unexpectedly and gave birth at 43 for my 1st child . It is still possible for all of you k? Hugggzzzz

yes yes....stress also plays an impt factor too...

haizz...all of us understand, but when face with this situation, we cant help it but evyday tink tink tink esp during the 2ww which can make us go crazy....

nevertheless, i know i will regret if i do noting...tats y i chose to do 2 IUI but failed......should b going for IVF but seeing traditional chinese medicine currently....even if i dont strike when i'm with traditional chinese medicine, at least i can "tiao" my body 1st before doing IVF~

i also scare i'm giving myself too much stress by "anyhow" thinking esp when IVF is considered the highest chance of "trying to concieve treatment"......

sighz...i also dont know how to describle the feeling...wanna go for IVF (pour evyting) but scare fail......however i know smting for sure---i will regret if i did not try IVF.....so just go for it....fail or success leave it to heaven baaaa....i've done evyting i can~

[justforgags]

Thank god!! Finally my hubby agree on going thru IVF but not anytime soon cause we have to save up

[lawla12]

Originally Posted by justforgags Thank god!! Finally my hubby agree on going thru IVF but not anytime soon cause we have to save up

jia you jia you~


you'r currently on traditional chinese medicine rite??? let them "tiao tiao" your body before going for IVF yaaaaaa.......

[when it'll happen]

Hi I'm trying for my baby for almost 1.5yrs now and still no good news yet. Worst thing is we've went for all fertility test and report came back as perfectly fine! Sometimes I just wished that doc give us some negative feedbck on our report so that at least we know there's an underlying condition, but now all we can do is hope for miracle to happen or to take doc advice of gg thru IUI if we still dont't strike by end of the yr. Apparently after reading the post here, it seems like IUI has very min success rates! Would you all advice if I go straight for IVF instead of IUI? And those who have went thru IUI, isit paInful?
I'm quite scare of pain after gv thru HSG, the thought of it just send chill dwn my spine...

[justforgags]

Originally Posted by lawla12 jia you jia you~ you'r currently on traditional chinese medicine rite??? let them "tiao tiao" your body before going for IVF yaaaaaa.......

Yea, thought of goin for the accupunture at raffles hospital or singapore general hospital traditional chinese medicine.. C wht my gynae have to say..

[justforgags]

hi guys,

can you describe how tedious n painful is IVF gonna b.. Wud like to prepare for myself for that;-)

[Shashan]

Originally Posted by justforgags hi guys, can you describe how tedious n painful is IVF gonna b.. Wud like to prepare for myself for that;-)

Hi, i'm new here. but had 2 ivf experiences. At first, doc thought that only my husband haveslight morphology problem, but after the first ivf trial, doc realised that my eggs quality is not good. 2nd attempt managed to improve my egg quality and one embryo implanted, but lost at week 5. intend to try for the 3 rd time....

[justforgags]

Originally Posted by Shashan Hi, i'm new here. but had 2 ivf experiences. At first, doc thought that only my husband haveslight morphology problem, but after the first ivf trial, doc realised that my eggs quality is not good. 2nd attempt managed to improve my egg quality and one embryo implanted, but lost at week 5. intend to try for the 3 rd time....

Hi shashan, may i know how old r you?? i planned to go for IVF most prollly nx year n im in my mid 20s=)

[lawla12]

Originally Posted by justforgags hi guys, can you describe how tedious n painful is IVF gonna b.. Wud like to prepare for myself for that;-)

helo gags....

did you try IUI before???? the procedure is smting smiliar.....


for IVF---aim is to get as many eggs as possible...so gynae should b giving you jabs instead of clomid.

the jabs is injected on your tummy daily (DIY yourself, dosage depends on individual)....i've the pic in my HP but i dont have the cable now, tomolo then i upload for you ok....

the jabs is injected from day 1 to 12/16 (also depends on individual, how well our eggs grow)....during day 1 to 12/16, b prepared to see the gynae evy 2/3days...the gynae will have to monitor the growth of our eggs.....when its getting nearer to ovulation timing, gynae will see you more often too or she may take bloodtest to determine the ovulation timing if necessary.....

so before ovulation, gynae will inject another jab on your butt to stop the ovulation...then next day, gynae will extract your eggs out (you will b asleep, you wont feel anyting)....i've not done IVF before, but heard from my colleague that after the egg removal, your tummy like cramp cramp (like AF coming those feeling)......in the morn before you extract your eggs out, your hubby will have to deposit his sperms ya....so when the eggs r ready, the sperms r washed n injected into your eggs......

you'll have to wait for about 3days for the eggs n sperms to react.....after about 3days later, gynae will choose max of 3 fertilised eggs n place it back into our private area....

for tis, its exactly like IUI where you open your legs wide wide for them to insert the tube n insert the eggs back into our private area through the tube.....its not painful, just uncomfortable ya....the process is very fast dee, less than 5mins......just relax n evyting will go smoothly.......

after all these, it will b 2 ww yaaaaaaaaaa



i'm sure before you do your IVF, the nurse n gynae will explain to you about the procedure yaa...you can ask them too yaaaaa~

[Shashan]

Originally Posted by justforgags Hi shashan, may i know how old r you?? i planned to go for IVF most prollly nx year n im in my mid 20s=)

Hi, justforgags. you're younger... Still have time. I'm 30 this year, my problem is more serious. Doc said I have premature aging ovaries, thus my egg quality not good, and I may not ovulate, thus it's better to go for ivf. But after 2 failed experiences, now feel a bit desperate...
It's not easy to went through the 2 weeks wait, my problem only found out after I had my first ivf, cause doc won't know how's our egg quality until they retrieve my eggs....
I'm trying Chinese herbal medicine too, I think that's a good method for us who went through ivf.

[justforgags]

Originally Posted by lawla12 helo gags.... did you try IUI before???? the procedure is smting smiliar..... for IVF---aim is to get as many eggs as possible...so gynae should b giving you jabs instead of clomid. the jabs is injected on your tummy daily (DIY yourself, dosage depends on individual)....i've the pic in my HP but i dont have the cable now, tomolo then i upload for you ok.... the jabs is injected from day 1 to 12/16 (also depends on individual, how well our eggs grow)....during day 1 to 12/16, b prepared to see the gynae evy 2/3days...the gynae will have to monitor the growth of our eggs.....when its getting nearer to ovulation timing, gynae will see you more often too or she may take bloodtest to determine the ovulation timing if necessary..... so before ovulation, gynae will inject another jab on your butt to stop the ovulation...then next day, gynae will extract your eggs out (you will b asleep, you wont feel anyting)....i've not done IVF before, but heard from my colleague that after the egg removal, your tummy like cramp cramp (like AF coming those feeling)......in the morn before you extract your eggs out, your hubby will have to deposit his sperms ya....so when the eggs r ready, the sperms r washed n injected into your eggs...... you'll have to wait for about 3days for the eggs n sperms to react.....after about 3days later, gynae will choose max of 3 fertilised eggs n place it back into our private area.... for tis, its exactly like IUI where you open your legs wide wide for them to insert the tube n insert the eggs back into our private area through the tube.....its not painful, just uncomfortable ya....the process is very fast dee, less than 5mins......just relax n evyting will go smoothly....... after all these, it will b 2 ww yaaaaaaaaaa i'm sure before you do your IVF, the nurse n gynae will explain to you about the procedure yaa...you can ask them too yaaaaa~

Hi lawla, thx for the useful info. I can now picture how its gonna b like..

My gynae recommend me to go str8 for IVF n not to waste time on iui. My hubby have to go thru icsi to retrieve his sperm as he is having azoospermia.

Originally Posted by Shashan Hi, justforgags. you're younger... Still have time. I'm 30 this year, my problem is more serious. Doc said I have premature aging ovaries, thus my egg quality not good, and I may not ovulate, thus it's better to go for ivf. But after 2 failed experiences, now feel a bit desperate... It's not easy to went through the 2 weeks wait, my problem only found out after I had my first ivf, cause doc won't know how's our egg quality until they retrieve my eggs.... I'm trying Chinese herbal medicine too, I think that's a good method for us who went through ivf.

Hi Shashan,

Yea im goin for traditional chinese medicine under my gynae as well to boost the IVF treatment

[Shashan]

Originally Posted by lawla12 sry to hear that babylemon.... you've tried your very best....dont give up......the time will come.....one of my friend's colleague, she went thr 2 IVF but failed.....the couple decided not to have babies since they've tried evyting.....but guess what, 3mths later, the wife strike..... smtimes tings r just so werid.....when you want it to come, it just refuse to come...but when you'r least expecting it, it APPEAR~ understand the pain you went thr....((though i not yet do IVF, but i know i will confirm break down if my IVF fail))....i'm a little unwillingly to do IVF cos its considered the highest chance of conceiving......but still i know if i dont go thr this, i will definitely regret esp when i'm getting olddddddddddd...... so just go for it...at least i know we've try our very best..... take tis opportunity to rest ....go for a short holiday......we'll all support you yaaa...dont give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi,babylemon. Sorry to hear about it. I totally can understand how you feel as I had 2 failed ivf before too.
At first didn't realised I've problem, after Doc retrieved my eggs, get to know that my eggs quality are not good. In 2nd attempt, doc managed to improve my eggs quality through medicine and I got pregnant, but I lost it at 5th week...
Now really feel a bit desperate.... It's really not easy to went through that 2 weeks wait, and if I fail for my 3rd time, there'll be no co funding and medisave that I can claim already...