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    We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Littlej, continue your Opk everyday till you get faint line, which I guess shld be start on tue/wed. Once you see faint lines, test 2x a day. Then you can gauge whether morning or evening/night you have O, stop once you get a negative

    Cm hard to see sometimes I think n differ from person to person

    One thing I noted (maybe you girls can observe also) if i bd during non fertile period, eg before O, hubby Semen will leak out very fast after he pull out (and thus dirty the bed). But during O times, the semen will not leak out so fast unless anyhow move. I read up, they say cos the cervix is open during O and then will "accept" the semen or something. Maybe you can try observe urselves that's how I gauge fertile n non fertile period also

    Dragontail: I very kan jiong so I think I will go ahead regardless of doc
    Say ok ornt hahaha. Maybe if you feel better I dont't see why cannot bd hmmm. I heard after mc sometimes very fertile one
    Last edited by littlehamster; 07-01-2013 at 06:25 PM.

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    To me, so long the CM can stretch beyond 1.5cm or so, I take it I'm fertile and whack the base already. Semen doesnt stretch like that at all. I dont do kegel. And it's actually best to BD before bedtime when the chance of having outflow is lower.

    Having said that, not everyone can observe EWCM but still get preggie. Therefore if this method doesnt work, then probably have to rely on OPK already.

    hmm... how to describe o-pain? It's not a dull feeling. It's quite a sharp twinging sudden pain (sensation but it's not like utterly painful) around your ovaries, uterus area.

    LOL I can so relate to your "feel".

    Yes yes, can be considered Sat. I think there were two days we didnt BD exactly in that cycle, according to sinseh's instruction. But I conceived anyway. So abit plus minus can do one.

    Actually the whole purpose of doing BDs a few times during the cycle comes in two :
    1. The probability of conception is increased when you BD multiple times in your fertile window.
    2. Having sex often ensures that the sperm ejaculated is as healthy as it can be. Storing it up can decrease its motility, so dont be tempted to put off BD until you ovulate.

    Since your doc says to bd on these days between tomorrow and next monday, it could mean you're going to ovulate end of this week. You can start to OPK tomorrow twice a day. Dont take your urine first thing in the morning because the LH surge happens first thing in morning but it will only show in your urine few hours later. I find testing around 10-11am is ok. Then test again at 6-7pm.

    littlehamster, oh I didnt notice that before. I will observe

    Personally I also feel I can t-c-c anytime already. I mean I didnt do any d&c (which may thin the uterus lining) this time; it was a natural one. But both my gynae and sinseh say just wait for one AF first. So ok I wait ....Feb still in time for snakey

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Dragontail

    your hubby is very sweet to you
    but i feel that as long as you feel mentally ready to start after one cycle, you should be able to do so...
    Get the green light from your sinseh and you can start to get busy again
    hehe
    Good luck, may all of us "graduate" soon....

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    Ohhh I'm so confused....could I be having pms instead of ovulation pain? Or could it be implantation cramp? Hahaha I'm so confused....and it's making me mad.

    Seems like a lot of you monitor bbt. ...I never monitor before . you all use normal thermometer?

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Mentally, I'm ready. I hope everyone here gets a baby snakey, except for ladyluck who's aiming for a horsey

    poohy, mdm sadiah told me she will refer me to her daughter Ana. I asked her if Ana is as good as her, since my friend recommends sadiah what. She said her daughter has 5 years experience and can find her in facebook. Anyway, I will try her once tomorrow and if good then I will continue 2 more sessions.

    Yes, t-c-c is a tough business. It's recommended you use a BBT thermometer. Guardian sells one for $10ish I think. It's supposed to be more sensitive can measure to two decimal points.

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    Dragontail. ..oh her daughter taking over her? Anyway it's pay by per session basis right? If dont't like can dont't continue....let me know whether the daughter skill is good!

    Oh guardian got the thermometer? I shall go and see! Now I also dont know whats going on in my body.....like haywire

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    I forgot to ask is it mdm sadiah is retiring ;p I thought she is overbooked so she recommends her girl. Yes I wont go for package kind so tomorrow I will share the verdict! I've spoken to Ana and it's ok the massage can be done on my bed.

    BBT is indeed a good monitoring tool to knowing our own cycles better. But it does require some kind of discipline. I started off losing sleep! Because I wanted to be very sure that I was measuring at the same time everyday (6am. My usual wake up time for work). I would wake up in the middle of the night thinking did I miss the alarm. Ha! But after few months of BBT-ing, I dont feel so tensed up anymore.

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    OH man - TCC is really tough business. Just read the fertility foods link and pineapple really? Hahaha I remembered old wives tale is to eat as many pineapple to get a miscarriage?? (Or was I mistaken).

    Anyway, I just told my dear I am so willing to give up my career and my bags and my shoes, if I could have one healthy baby

    The OPK i bought is the Clearblue one with and without smiley face. So all I see the past 2 days is a circle with no face. But when I ejected the 'urine stick' - there were 2 lines with a darker upper line and a faint bottom line. So how to see? I tried to google but all I can find on Clearblue is to see smiley face or no smiley face.

    Sometimes I wonder if the twinging pain is my ovaries or is it because I have a poor digestive system... Cuz Dr Wu said my chang wei no good.

    @Dragontail - 6am is your usual wake up time?!?! Geez! I'm still blissfully sleeping at that time. 6am is the time I wake up when I had to go to school a long long time ago :P

    yes yes, tracking BBT used to 'scare' me too. But unlike @dragontail - what happened for me was that I woke up too early, went back to sleep and overslept. I'm still not as disciplined in having the same timing thing.. But I guess at least I'm not super duper late for work anymore so timing more or less the same in a way.. Unless I have really early morning meetings. Then again, I wonder if it's based on wake up time timing or the # of hours you sleep? So for instance, can wake up 8am but what if I slept for fewer hours - temp will also affect right?

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    I think pineapple is good so long as you stop once you ovulate. Dr Wu told me pineapple is a no no when preggie.

    You'll get there, littlej. Dont give up those nice things yet

    Those smiley ones must cost a lot if you have to test twice a day for a week! What do you mean by ejected the urine stick?

    Ya, 6am you read it right. Soon later this month, it will be 530am because my office will be moved to a further spot in SG. I need an hour and 45 mins everyday to prepare that's why. I can never rush myself in the morning! But luckily I dont have to do that for work everyday. At some days I can snooze in a little more.

    Yes, I find my temp is drastically different when there's too much variations. It affects most when I have disturbed sleep. If say I wake up at 4am, I will temp at 4am and will not temp at 6am anymore because it was a disturbed sleep so if I temp at 6am, it wont be accurate. On weekend, I will also set my handphone alarm to 6am just to temp. But if I oversleep and get up at 9am, I wont temp anymore as again, it's not consistently correct. I just take it there's no reading for that day.

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Oh the clear blue comes with this equipment which you need to insert the urine sticks into. So when I ejected the urine sticks after seeing the result - I noticed there were 2 lines on the stick. I assume smiley face works the same way as other normal opk just that the equipment shows you a smiley face or not.

    Ya I bought clearblue that time cuz the pharmacist told me easiest to use. Now that I realize should test twice a day I was like huh - so ex! Anyway since I have this now I thought I use this first. Then I get the cheaper ones next time.

    So 2 lines top line darker means ??

    Oh dragontail - I did the opposite from you. I just chart whenever I wake up. Cuz I know if I dont chart for one day it will end up 2 days then 3 then more... And I end up not charting at all! So now that I am in the habit of turning over for theomeyer when I wake up I dont't dare to break the pattern!

    Oh my! I take 30 min to get ready. Shower brush teeth change make up. It is impossible for me to bd in the morning cuz I always end up rushing. Oh my... 530am sounds like an insane time. You know some people just finished clubbing at that time only

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    Littlej. ..I also find cleablue not as easy! Same case as you....no smiley face but when took out stick to see..got faint line. Well guess by logic of those cheap opk..it should be considered negative? But then I've been testing for week and still neg...I gave up.

    Wah measure bbt need to be so disciplined ...and Dragontail really wake up so early! I still zzz

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    today my BBT become weird again
    35.52 haha seems like a drop from 35.83
    weird.. i thought i ovulated and OPKS is negative...
    maybe because i take the BBT at different timing of each day..
    haha sometimes 6, 6.30, 7, 7.30.... depending whether i on leave or wake up early/late hahaha
    will the timing affect the BBT so much?
    sigh... then i guess OPKS should be more reliable for me....

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Hmm.. I think for BBT the timing affects... Like what dragontail has said.

    For me - My BBT is also sometimes weird.. Trying out OPK this cycle but it gets a bit disappointing to see no smiley face.

    @ poohy - I may change brand after this cycle - if i still wanna continue with OPK.

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    I envy you ladies who only need half hour in morning before getting out of the house. I need one hour to shower, makeup, blow dry hair. And the other 45mins to touch this touch that and settle my dog. Sometimes I take so long to prepare too on weekend that my hubby gets impatient ;p

    Oh I never tried the clearblue OPK before so not sure how it works. So far I only tried one round of OPK with the cheapie ones and I gave up already.

    For BBT, the temperature can be quite erratic before I Oed. Once Oed, then somehow the difference is not much everyday, until my AF comes.

    Faithfummy, that’s why I quit OPK as very hard to gel everything together! You see what works for you and you just observe one or two method can already. Else I find it very confusing for myself too.

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    littlej: you read this, i think urs is this POAS ~ OPK FAQ

    the rest: if you interested can read this on opk http://www.peeonastick.com/opkodyssey.html as well as the faq section http://www.peeonastick.com/opkfaq.html
    Last edited by littlehamster; 08-01-2013 at 01:34 PM.

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    @littlehamster - Thanks.. OH gosh - I'm now confused.. Oh well I shall stick to circular and smiley faces until I finish the last 5 sticks. But it sucks to see circles

    @dragontail - hahaha i dont't blow dry my hair in the morning so I save time on that. Then oh ya I spend another 5 - 10 min on my dog then it's out of the house I go!

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    awww littlej, truely can understand how you feel...i also confused and feel sucks to see circles! I will also change OPK to cassettee type if this cycle fails.

    can anyone advise: just when i'm going to stop BD for this month, just now when i go toilet and saw CM! its not white/transparent but a bit yellowish! Am I ovulating??
    today is CD25 already!

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    littlej: hehe.. heartbroken aso cos $$.. you want tom bang Dragontail buy dip opk from china? few dollars only i think no harm

    poohy: how is the consistency like? dry/stick/thick/creamy/??? your cycles very long ?

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    littlehamster...this month also weird body. Mid-cycle (supposedly ovulation timing), i got cramps on both sides of my tummy....but no EWCM and neg OPK. Then dry all the way until Sunday (CD23) where i got a bit of CM and dull ache....dry.....then today all of sudden go toilet got CM once. Then dry again......oh welll..... whats going on!?

    edit: My cycles not very long in recent months.....but range from 25-35 days.....
    Last edited by poohy; 08-01-2013 at 05:58 PM.

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    I'm just done with the massage by Ana. She ended it with tummy binding. Before the bind, she applied a blackie creamy stuff on the stomach. Also put on socks for me. She said no carrying of heavy stuff (not even my dog) from now on because she has raised up the uterus. She started off quite light handed so I told her I usually tell my therapist to go more hard handed because I have high threshold on massage pain. Hee.

    She said the bind has to be worn for 6-8hrs. Best is I sleep with it and tomorrow morning then remove. I'll see her again on Thur and probably Mon too for the last session.

    poohy, did you try to spread the CM? If it's stretchy between your fingers for like at least 1cm-1.5cm then it's probably fertile. If it doesnt stretch that way, then I would think it's not. Personally I get very confused with white/sticky/creamy/watery CM descriptions. Therefore I have figured out, based on the observation on myself, that stretchy=fertile and non-stretchy=not fertile(regardless white/sticky/creamy/watery).

    Today is the 6th day that I notice I have very light stretchy CM consecutively everyday. Usually by about now I should have ample of that EWCM. Will wait next few days to see if I got that and also a temp hike to confirm if I have ovulated.

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    oh you just done the massage?! how you feeling? good?
    I didnt like the binding....always took down after 2-3hrs (naughty me).hahaha...coz cant stand the tightness. feel like a robot with that bind.

    hmm, the CM seems stretchy....not watery type. Guess i should try to BD tonight to cover all grounds.hahaha....scarly is AF coming ......

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Hmmm actually I dont feel much of anything after the massage. Ha! Am I supposed to feel something? Maybe first half of the session wasnt hard enough. Thur I will ask her to use all her cow strength. I like it that my body aches after one! Or post-natal ones are not supposed to be hard since it's all about removing wind / push up uterus? My normal spa massage always target my muscles so maybe I shouldnt be expecting that too for post-natal's. Haa... i think the bidding she did not too tight. Still can breathe. See how long I can tahan tonight....

    Since stretchy, try one more time tonite!

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    We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Hi girls,I'm just wondering...what exactly does BD stands for?? I just roughly know it means 'doing e homework'. Haha...but anyway,I heard from my friend that we shld try do every 2days after menses is over,n only stop doing it after ovulation as it may hinder e implantation if you keep doing. Is that true? Do you girls also do this??

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    It means Baby Dance = making babies!

    I've not heard about stopping the BD after ovulation. What I do is I start to BD around CD12 all the way till I ovulate (around CD19). Actually quite auto that we stop BD after I have Oed because we are left with no energy after the frantic BDs.

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