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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

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    I think i am giving up on bbt like you giving up on opk...
    it make me more worried when i see temperature drop

    Dpo 8 - 36.12
    Dpo 9 - 35.85
    Dpo 10 - 36.60 - at this point, i thought i see hope but then........
    Dpo 11 - 36.21 - dropped
    Dpo 12 - 36.04 - today dpo 12 dropped further... i dont dare to think about it anymore

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    We are trying to concieve-ing!

    You all are so hardworking.. I'm not even doing any BBT or OPK.. Only observing my cm (which is non-existent this month) and relying on the inaccurate app. Faithmummy doing charting is better than not doing anything to track ovulation so dont't be too affected by the figures..

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    We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Hi faithmummy

    We are in the same boat. It sux getting disappointed in the morning

    2dpo to 5dpo - hovering around 36.5
    6dpo - 36.3 *uh oh*
    7dpo - 36.7 *hopeful*
    8dpo - 36.2 *disappointed*

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    Do you all use the special BBT thermometer or just a regular thermometer? I tried using a regular one to track last month but my temp stayed high all the way till AF came. So I dont't think it is accurate. I gave up on tracking temp after that becos must pee on stick, must take temp, must chart, must eat supps, must eat traditional chinese medicine med....before I start the day, already got myself so busy..

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    At least BBT gives pre-signs to us (good or bad!). For OPK, I feel it just messes up all my readings.

    faithmummy, is your LP typically 13days thereabout (not sure you'll have this info at this point since you're charting for the first cycle)? If so and if your AF is due to come, by 11/12 dpo, yes the temp will just dive and you'll see AF within 2 days from the first dive. At least that's for me. But of course hopefully what happened was you had a bad night sleep and the recent readings are just off your chart!

    littlej, maybe you temp at different timing? (i know you dont temp at same time typically ;p). For 8DPO, the dip is too soon for a sign of AF coming. Unless your LP is really short to begin with.

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    TVH, it's advisable to use a special BBT thermometer because it's more sensitive than the conventional ones. Indeed, serious t-c-cing is serious stuff!

    I was still having the tiniest hope that I could see a temp shift this morning. Ie that I O-ed. Still dont have. So case closed for this month for me (on hindsight, I can shop till I drop and massage everyday at BKK next week!). And why I think I should O by now and not later is because my last sight of EWCM was 4 days ago. Now I'm drying up. Typically, my temp shift would have happened in 2 days time once i start to dry up.

    Without BBT, I wouldnt know that an anovulation would happen. I mean I've always O-ed, ever since I started BBT. And I think I've posted this earlier... my O signs in this cycle were one of the strongest. I goggled and found out having O-signs and even an +ve OPK do not automatically mean you will definitely O. The BBT temp shift is a better tool to confirm you O-ed. So I learnt something new this month.

    Now I kinda understand why my gynae said dont try t-c-cing till after my next AF. I believe the MC has caused some hormone imbalance which leads to no ovulation in this cycle for me. Therefore good to wait till AF comes so that the body has been "reset", and can start all over again.

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

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    hugzz to you.... i think let's dont't think anymore and leave it to nature.
    i think as long as we stay positive, we will strike one day !!!

    Superwomancqy

    I think it is also good Not to know anything. because the more we know, the more we worried.
    So just stay with your CM tracking... i think it will be good enough...

    Dragontail

    Actually i dont't know my LP , i always assume its 14 days
    sighz... i think i better dont't pin too much hope so that disappointment is lesser
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    We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Congrats littlehamster!!!! Enjoy your pregnancy!!!

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    We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Polyclinic urine test is negative. they won't let me refer to Kandang Kerbau Hospital. Now at GP do a blood test. Weird the polyclinic doc say if my blood test is pos he will refer but they dont't have blood test zzz

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Although I'm a diligent BBT-er, I second that on faithmummy's. Last time no BBT, I felt so free. Now, I can't live without my thermometer. But BBTing is such a way of life for me now I find it hard to kick it off. The only way for me to discard it for good is having a baby!

    I know we are all working hard here on t-c-c....but dont let a disappointment ruin our hopes. We know there's a always another window to look forward to. Good luck and hugs.
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    ya confusing isn't it...having a positive OPK and a temp shift doesn't guarantee that you will definitely O. I have had positive OPKs past few months but i'm not sure if i really O-ed. Next step would be to go for scans to see how the follicles grow according to my gynae...it's $$ again...
    But I also read that BBT sometimes when you detect the shift, you might have already O-ed....I dont't know what to believe in anymore....
    We were thinking of giving up after this cycle because too much money has been spent...why can't we be like animals? They mate once a year but it's always one shot one kill
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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    littlehamster, yes blood test will be more accurate. So strange on that practice.... Update us!

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    hahaha TVH comment on animals make me giggle ...anyway it also reminds me of the youngsters---dont want baby, yet 1 time only can kena. We try for years also dont have. Something is not right.hahahahahaha.

    Jia you everyone! TGIF! Dont think about so much and enjoy the weekend.

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    Sorry ladies, I'm kinda confused about the bbt chart thing, cause I never attempted to read it, just pass to dr for him to see. Do you mean we can tell if we are pregnant using the chart?

    Also wanted to ask something else.. Do your spouses go for the check ups with you or do you go alone? An wondering if I am being too demanding of my husband's time. :/


    Plus.. How soon can I do pregnancy test? I never tested before cause.. Never pregnant before. As long as I wait period sure comes. :S Chinese dr asked me to test tomorrow, but mine is due only on next Tuesday. dont know if i'll be setting myself up for more disappointment if I try to test. Already got used to seeing the red flow arrive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poohy View Post
    hahaha TVH comment on animals make me giggle ...anyway it also reminds me of the youngsters---dont want baby, yet 1 time only can kena. We try for years also dont have. Something is not right.hahahahahaha.

    Jia you everyone! TGIF! Dont think about so much and enjoy the weekend.
    Yes.. I agree with the comment on animals and youngsters. I always thought humans breed like bunny rabbits. Only now I realize breeding is not so simple. :X

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    We are trying to concieve-ing!

    I got so impatient I went to POAS and sure enough was neg..I didn't really think because I tested on 2nd urine and my AF is not due until next Wednesday. I got so fed up of waiting ! I think that the only way to get pregnant is to not plan to get pregnant, just like the animals hehehe

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    My hubby went with me for all the checks and even traditional chinese medicine. The route to having a baby is a two persons effort so it is only fair that hubbies are participating in whatever needs to be done. Sometimes I do feel that my hubby is a little stressed with all the checks and visits but we have discussed and came to a conclusion that if we dont't find out hat is wrong, we could be trying for years without success and never knowing what is wrong.

    you could test on the day your menses is due. If you test before that, HCG level might b too low to b picked up. There are some brands of HPT kits that is able to detect low levels of HCG. I know clearblue measures 20 (I forgot the measurement unit). I bought this brand called Fortels at Guardian that claims to detect 10. I've read on other forums about this brand called first response that is able to detect low HCG levels as well.
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    According to the trusted FF - On average - Ovulation is 20 days and LP is 10 days. But when I do my own calculation - Ovulation is 17 days and LP is 13 days. I guess I need to chart a bit more to have a more accurate analysis (*feels like work*). See the chart above - BTW, I paid for the VIP version of FF so I can have such in-depth analysis :P

    Oh dragontail - I have been charting more consistently this cycle. Force myself to wake up at 730am (no lie-ins) just to take temp. My dear thinks I'm crazy. He will turn around to see this woman having a thermometer in her mouth and turn over again. I did ask him if he can read my temp and write it down on my behalf (and dont't show me!) and he commented that "i have zou huo ru muo with this whole trying to concieve exercise" :P

    @ Faithmummy - Goody luck to the both of us. I dont't wanna do this but hahah - sinseh needs the readings.. Hence my suggestion to my dear above but received a "duh - are you insane" look.

    @littlehamster - Aiyo why like that! Hmph. Ok ok update us when you visit the GP.

    @TVH - I've visited my gynae EVERY month since Oct and even more extreme in Dec cuz I went to see TWO gynaes. For the past 3 months, I've already spent $1600 on trying to concieve (Gynae + IUI + HSG + traditional chinese medicine). Can buy a Mulberry or Goyard bag already. At the rate I'm going with no success, I think this trying to concieve exercise would have gotten me a couple of Chanels or perhaps a Birkin *gasp*. But well, I'm still hoping... Now planning for a holiday in March with dear and of course holiday will coincide with the fertile period :P (more $$ spent)

    Hhahaah and yes I can't stop giggling at the one shot one kill animal analogy! And yes poohy - I am attending shotgun weddings and I'm like - sigh - why so easy .

    @Adrenalin - In the past 3 months where I visited the gynae 4 times + 1 IUI + 1 HSG - My man only came with me for 2 x gynae visits + HSG. As for traditional chinese medicine where I've gone for about 6 times, I did all on my own as well. Personally for me, I wanted to make sure I conserve my "brownie points" for the bigger more important stuff like "c'mon let's BD now now now" (when all he feels like doing is sleeping) and I wanted to also make sure he doesn't get too bogged down.

    TGIFF!!!

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    Haha I agree with you, littlej!
    The amt of money spent on the checks and supps and whatver nots, I could have gone for a very nice holiday! I've already put all holiday plans on hold becos o scared I kena jackpot then cannot refund the tickets...but one year on....sigh...I should have gone for the holidays...

    I also switched gynae halfway becos I was told there is a new regulation regarding IUI procedure, only fertility specialists can perform the procedure, normal gynae and obs cannot do it now. The last visit to a fertility specialist costs me close to $500, just for consultation and supps. My heart like breaking up into tiny pieces after I saw the bill.

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    Oh then I hope I'm like a little rat (i am rat;p)... do one time jackpot one time.

    Adrenalin, BBT can give some indicatives. Though of course it can only be supported by a hcg test. Say if you see your temp goes up and stay up higher from 7-10dpo thereabout, it's a good pregnancy sign (triphasic : happens after implantation). But some preggie women dont experience that at all. For me, I did have one.

    Usually most HPTs in a way guarantee a certain percentage of accuracy if you test from the day of your missed AF. Anything before, it's really at your own discretion. I've tried a few brands of HPT before. Cheap to more expensive ones (never tried digital tho. Not prepared to spend that money for an unknown result test). They all work the same. Cheapies ones dont mean they cant detect HCG as good as more costly ones. I personally like the ones from Mustafa best. $2.90 each. The last trip my hubby picked up 15 of them. Ha!

    Actually my last BFP I also couldnt wait till missed AF. I tested on 7 DPO and I think it was a +ve. On an expensive Clearblue. Though I wasnt quite sure if the line was right. Tested on 11DPO again and obviously BFP on a cheapie. My cycle can be 32-35days. So I'm not very sure 11DPO for that cycle was considered my missed AF day or not.

    So far my hubby doesnt see my sinseh. But he will be in early Feb.
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    Oh ya, have you experienced weird cycles after HSG? My ovulation seems to have changed and getting later and later after I did the procedure. very hard to know when I ovulate now...right after the HSG, I bled alot...my blood pressure also gone way down right after the procedure becos it was so painful, the doc didn't allow me to get down from the bed as my blood pressure was way too low. She was worried I would faint. I dont't know of it is affecting my cycles now...

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    We are trying to concieve-ing!

    do you test on 1st urine ? I tested on 2nd and I dont't think it was a good idea...

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    We are trying to concieve-ing!

    after drinking that is

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    I usually will be prudent with what i eat if I think there's still a chance during my DPO that I may conceive in that cycle. But i know not this one already so I just ate a cup noodle crab flavour. Haa!

    littlej, I was tempted to buy the VIP in FF too. But my hubby keeps saying so expensive. So I didnt buy. Do my own analysis ;p Actually a longer LP is good. A too short one is considered a "defect". So I read somewhere. Such a heavy word.

    Hehe... my hubby is immuned to my habit already. When I was preggie in the last, I sometimes also popped the thermometer in my mouth before I sleep. I just wanted to be sure I didnt see any big dip so that I could sleep in peace. Oh did you know you dont have to read it right on the spot? There's a memory function in the thermometer. But seriously I dont use it. I always remember what I read and record it only when I'm truly awake.

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    tricky, test the hpt in the morning, before any fluid intake.

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