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    We are trying to concieve-ing!

    TVH I went for the HSG last August button cycles seemed normal after the procedure. Agree it's a traumatic experience and I won't want anyone to go through it (can't imagine giving birth). But I remembered slight cramping n spotting for myself so did the medical staff advise you then when you had bleeding and low pressure? I read that one will be more fertile 2-3 months after HSG as the dye will flush through the tubes and unblock it.. Hope it's of some consolation to you for going through the procedure.

    Life is ironic in a way.. I always thought its easy for us to have a baby as and when we want.. But it seems the more we want something, life poses obstacles to it. Hopefully these experiences will only strengthen our relationship with hubby. Like my traditional chinese medicine doc said, at the end of the day it's still the 2 of us growing old together with or without kids.

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    That's so true, superwoman.

    Just last night me and hubby had pillow talk. Told him I will only try for horsey and not beyond anymore because of my age. I dont think my body can be geared up any further by then. And we decide we will only try the natural way, no IVF nor IUI, because we mutually agree that we want our baby to be a "gift naturally". Not against technology medic help... but it's just something which we choose.

    There are other interests we fancy too. If a kid comes along, we'll embrace it fully. If not, I'm sure we both will complete our marriage one way or another.

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Superwomancgy, I agree. My traditional chinese medicine doc kept telling me getting pregnant is just the beginning, not the end of a process. Ultimately when we grow old and kids grow up, they have their own lives and we r back to square one when it would be just the both of us again.

    I had horrible cramps due to the pre medication I had to take before going for the Hsg test as that med was supposed to open up my cervix since I have not been pregnant before and it would b difficult to get the catheter in (which I later learnt that med is what is prescribed for abortion as I later googled -_-)The cramp was so horrible that I vomited right before the procedure. But at least now I know both my tubes are open. It has been 3 mths since and we r still struggling to get preggy. And the various checks have proven that I have no probs conceiving so it could b male factor infertility. My husband has Ben taking supps diligently now and I hope the situation could b improved, if not even IUI is out of the question according to my gynae.

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Dragontail, we have the same thought as you too. We wanted the baby through natural means so I am reluctant to even go for IUI. Just hope this month works

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Hi TVH - I only did HSG in this cycle so I dont't know about the impact on my cycle. So far - Ovulation has been quite correct. I dont't know about the arrival of AF cuz AF is due next week. For me - HSG was erm to be honest, not as painful as I thought it would be. I popped ponstan (painkillers) then in I went. I felt fine after - A bit of spotting but it cleared like 4 hours after. I expected cramps etc but surprisingly I didn't get those. Either I have a super thick skin or I really imagined so much worse pain (like worse than period cramps / I am so going to kill myself kinda pain) so my body was expecting for the very worse. But yes definitely agree I wouldn't recommend for anyone going for that!


    Did your gynae advise you to visit him during the first few days of your AF? That's what my second opinion gynae asked me to do - To test for endometrisis (which is not detected through HSG). So unless AF is being a good gal this month and comes either on Monday morning or Thursday morning / afternoon - I think I can only visit my gynae after AF cuz I'm away the rest of the week.

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    littlej: your nov bbt is everywhere. i would say your dec bbt is better, there is temp surge, most prob got O so is ovulation 15-16 days. so far hows your jan chart? my thermometer got the auto save last reading one, norm alarm ring then i take thermometer (bedside) then put in mouth (previous night wash clean ) then click n wait 1 min for alarm ring, then click to off then take thermometer out n put back bedside and continue to snooze~ later when i awake then i go click n see back the reading. sometimes forget aso then go check back

    i read got tep surge means got O , just that after O see alot funny factors to success or hinder it.. hard to say one. but must keep trying

    hehe if we were rabbits then we will be like the old woman in the shoe with many kids hard to raise so many~

    GP says i'll get a call fastest tomorrow for the report. see how it goes hmmmmmm

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    @little hamster - Oh oh.. how exciting! let us know!!

    if I'm the old woman in the shoe - i'd be celibate after three kids hahahhaha!

    Jan chart is in the pix sent . The purple line - Today is Day 25 and I got a temp dip.

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    I think I have phobia of going to drs alone after marriage. It is just so coincidental I get bad news from drs when my husband not around.. First was cancer 2 times, then poor ovarian reserve. Everytime I get the bad news I sit in shock by myself at the clinic. :X But I can see my husband struggling to cope with all these recent trying to concieve visits. I guess I shld try to schedule it so that he can turn up for more impt visits, but the thing is.. Usually shit hits the ceiling only when he is not around.

    Didnt realise normal gynae cannot do iui anymore. I did 2 iui before HSG, as my gynae said hsg causes more discomfort than iui. At first time iui I felt like a cow. It was excruciatingly painful and gynae kept saying my cervix is tight. I was thinking of course since I never give birth before. After iui have to rest with pelvic tilted to the ceiling. Cramps were horrible. But after first iui, subsequent HSG and IUI didn't hurt as much. But still having to expose privates to sooo many different drs and nurses can be mortifying no matter how many times it is done. My cycles shortened after iui. HSG no effect. Thinking back.. Should have taken painkillers before procedure I suppose, but the staff always says... Won't hurt, just like period cramps. :S I feel cheated. Lucky it is over.

    Ok will attempt to understand my bbt chart. have not't looked at graphs since school days. Maybe looking at bbt will help me decide if I shld test tomorrow or Tuesday. Or maybe shld try the mustafa strips test daily until Tuesday.
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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Quote Originally Posted by littlehamster View Post
    littlej: your nov bbt is everywhere. i would say your dec bbt is better, there is temp surge, most prob got O so is ovulation 15-16 days. so far hows your jan chart? my thermometer got the auto save last reading one, norm alarm ring then i take thermometer (bedside) then put in mouth (previous night wash clean ) then click n wait 1 min for alarm ring, then click to off then take thermometer out n put back bedside and continue to snooze~ later when i awake then i go click n see back the reading. sometimes forget aso then go check back

    i read got tep surge means got O , just that after O see alot funny factors to success or hinder it.. hard to say one. but must keep trying

    hehe if we were rabbits then we will be like the old woman in the shoe with many kids hard to raise so many~

    GP says i'll get a call fastest tomorrow for the report. see how it goes hmmmmmm
    I hope you get a nice gift then! A little bunny. not too many!

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    Dragontail, we have the same thought as you too. We wanted the baby through natural means so I am reluctant to even go for IUI. Just hope this month works
    I think it is good you ladies talk with your husband. I have them too.. But in all honesty, while i preferred no iui and ivf, my hubby is more like.. If you want baby need to be prepared to put up with the pain and suffering. To him technology is also a gift. :S then I said something like.. trying to concieve is like woman doing all the work while the men get the pleasure. Only after Nuh Ivf talk, my husband toned down and softened his stance a bit, ESP when he saw how long the follicle collecting needle was. I hope traditional chinese medicine works then no need iui and Ivf for you all too.

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    You mean IUI needs to collect follicles too?? I thought it was just a scan like ultrasound. After the HSG test, I think I developed a phobia of anything foreign inserting to my erm....down there

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    Quote Originally Posted by TVH View Post
    You mean IUI needs to collect follicles too?? I thought it was just a scan like ultrasound. After the HSG test, I think I developed a phobia of anything foreign inserting to my erm....down there
    Iui was just a scan plus cathether and some jelly thing. Ivf then collect follicles.

    I went to subfertility at Nuh with my hubby after 1 year of trying to concieve with 2 failed IUIs. They detected my AMH is low at nuh so, we are currently wait listed for Ivf. Before we can proceed onto IVF at NUH, prof PC Wong makes couples attend Ivf lecture. There they showed us hands on, the needles and hormone bottles we will be using, as well as the giant needle they will insert to collect follicles from ovaries. It is from this talk.. Then my husband learnt to be a bit more considerate, cause he touched the collecting needle and realized it is about as long as his forearm. At iui & HSG.. He is not there to see what gets inserted where and etc. So before that he was very not sympathetic. He thought I was whining. :X
    Totally understand the phobia. I 10000000... Times rather natural.

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    Ic...see just how much we women have to go through just to get pregnant...

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    We are trying to concieve-ing!

    you gals are a brave lot...hoping for the very best for all of you. I have been reading all the pages and your experiences and I thank you for sharing !
    TCCing is mad crazy, and I think it's starting to make me feel like I have obsessive behavior.

    on another note. would you describe your early preg cramping symptoms as quite different from AF cramps ? less painful but you feel activity ?

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    We're surely not alone here

    Yes they are similar. Can't really tell them apart except that I had them way too early in my DPO stage and also for me it was more intense (the preggie one) than the normal AF cramp. So I felt kinda fishy.

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    We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Hi adrenalin - sorry to hear about the not so fortunate visits. Glad all is cleared now in that case if you feel more comfortable with your hubby around then yes bring him! Takes two hands to clap and if you feel better with him there then he should be!

    For me - before any procedure I got the doc and the nurses to talk to me. Talk to me about anything - weather also can. For hsg I asked the doc why he decided to specialize in radiology and what did he study etcetc - that made the whole process easier cuz I was distracted.

    Dragontail - what kind of intense cramps? I thought I felt slight twinge on the right ovary and was feeling a bit nauseous yesterday but temp dip today so no chance. Maybe I was over imagining the twinge and I had too full a lunch.

    Dear wanted to bd today - I told him blackout. He was like - oh ya. And looked a bit sad *uh oh*

    And yes trying to concieve has made me quite obsessive. I wonder will 走火入魔 or not....

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    We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Littlej: maybe your temp dip is due to other factors like wind blow cold or no put blankie? Mine will . See how issit tomorrow.

    I really admire everyone here going thru many procedures just for this moment. I told my hubby about this he aso worry previously cos he himself very stressful job n may affect. He even say want to go fertility test n say he is ok w the ego thing cos he want kids too. I think most impt is both party need work together n be really understanding. Jiayou everyone!

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    Most of the time, I visit gynae alone, including my very last two visits (first visit doc said it was an empty sac. Second visit was he did a scan and assured me I've cleared all the tissues). My hubby is quite busy and I usually like to do gynae visits during weekdays. My first failed pregnancy I also went to do OSCAR alone. Hmm actually I dont really need him to be with me. I mean if his schedule allows, it will be lovely he's there. If not, I'm cool about it. But of course he's always with me, but just not always in a physical way.

    The cramp I had during early pregnancy was like two-three folds of what I usually experience just before AF. My AF cramp is usually quite dull and light; not distinctive like a pain at a particular spot of the ab. But then everyone is different.... it might just be different for you!

    Oh in fact we BD in the afternoon today. Before doing the deeds, hubby asked "this one do can catch or not?". As in can catch the egg or not. I told him "sorry the eggs closed for business already". I said this deed we gonna do has nothing to do with t-c-c. We did it anyway. ;p

    I admit I'm obsessive with this t-c-c exercise. I cannot deny it. I will do temping, I will continue with t-c-m, I will watch what I eat, I will do the deeds and already told hubby from now on I will use a green highlighter to mark those dates we need to BD (we have monthly calendars pasted on our wardrobde doors), I will read my body signals and chart fertile signs. It will only stop till I hit the spot. At least till the end of timeline I give myself.

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    We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Wa dragontail you and hubby no need to work ... Can have a luxurious lie in during the afternoon *jealous*

    Ya I told dear that doc said no bd. then he said I am not going to be around next week already how can I be so "mean" (jokingly)... But ended up being frisky without penetration anyway

    Then later after... He mentioned so does this mean we can only bd during that one or so week... And I was like see what doc says ... Then he said why can't we just be natural about it, and said it was quite stressful and no longer fun and spontaneous keeping to an assigned schedule. y'know I just dont't know what to say. I mean part of me understands where he is coming from. Part of me also know I agreed we won't follow the schedule next month . Yet there is also this other part whereby i just want a kid so badly. I wonder if I am stressing too much. And what if because of my obsessive behavior causes a strain in the relationship??

    Dear then asked for next month - can we do without this stress. Just for one month - can there not be this weird woman with a thermometer in the mouth every morning and scheduled bd sessions and blackout. And he said he just missed the fun and spontaneous days. He looked quite woeful and giving me this puppy eye look... I was like eh... Ok we discuss tomorrow.

    Sigh ladies - what is your suggestion? In a way I feel he is a bit selfish but in another way I also feel that now bd is more of a functional act than an emotional release. And he is also very stressed at work too.

    Sorry for this outpouring.

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    This "luxury" wont last because I'm just working remotely from home for a few days as my company is in the midst of moving. New office is ready on Monday which means I gotta get up half hour earlier -_-. And my hubby happened to be home today so we couldn't just the opportunity slipped ;p

    I see where he's coming from... and likewise from your good self. I would think one cycle without all these boggling theory might actually sound fun! I know it's not exactly easy to let go of all these t-c-c monitorings.... but seriously who knows it might actually be the right formula for you both? If it doesnt quite work out the way you like it, you can always toggle back (i mean he did say one month!). It's not easy too from a man's perspective when one is stressed at work. For this month's window, my hubby has work stress and exam stress. So I didnt make him BD too much. Only 3x! But I told him next window he wont be so lucky. lol.

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Littlej

    I quoted this paragraph from a useful website that teach us how to take note of our fertility window.. you and your hubby may want to try..
    In this way, you will still get to enjoy the spontaneous fun you used to have in the past, without following any schedule...
    hope you strike this cycle .. even if not, dont despair.. try below method without stress..

    ""THAT’S TOO COMPLICATED! ISN’T THERE AN EASIER WAY?
    To ensure that you are having intercourse during your fertile window without having to calculate formulas, check temperatures, mucus or OPKs you could simply have intercourse every 2-3 days throughout your cycle. By having intercourse this frequently you should end up with at least 2 acts of intercourse during your fertile window.""

    This is the link of the website that i get to read above paragraph

    UNC Women's Care: Don't Ignore | Your Fertility Window

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    And one more useful post about CM TRACKING ..
    Got pictures of Fertile CM..as examples

    UNC Women's Care: Don't Ignore | Myths and Facts

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    Hi all, wonder if you all will scold me for this or not.. lol. But really, a child is a blessings from heaven. Some of you may took a longer time to conceive, but do have faith. What is meant to be yours, will be yours. Perhaps, may i suggest besides praying, you can do more good deeds? 结善缘... Some ppl do have obstacles in life.. be it whatever kind.. But by doing more good deeds if you can, can help you do things more smoothly. Doing good things can be easy... donating things, helping the poor, asissting the needy... Or you can donate $$ to those free traditional chinese medicine clinic that offers free traditional chinese medicine treatment for old ppl.

    Pls dont scold me for suggesting this but as a Buddhist, i encourage one could do more good deeds to 结善缘...

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    diorly, I agree with you. I ever met a fengshui master before and he told me the same thing. Do more good deeds, dont't have to go do volunteer work if you have no time but small deeds like even buying tissues from the old aunties and uncles, that counts too. From then, we have been more conscious of our actions. A small action from us can have a great impact on other ppl's lives.

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    littlej, I have the same problem too although it's not my hubby complaining about having to stick to schedules to BD, it's me who is complaining...haha. I miss the spontaneity too. Ever since we started trying, we have been very uptight about catching the correct time. Nowadays when I asked for BD (ahem ahem...) from my hubby, he will automatically ask me,"you ovulating already ar?"....kills whatever mood I had...
    I have a friend facing the same problem, her husband complained to her that he no longer feels love between them when they are doing it, he just feels like a baby-producing machine. My friend has been obssessive about trying to concieve too so when her husband boey tahan one day blurted this out to her, she woke up. Few months later, they got it. I think maybe letting go could make things easier and success rate higher because the stress is not there. That said, easier said than done. I've told myself to let go but when my ovu looms near, I will automatically take out my box of OPKs for standby. It's like kena gong tao.

    faithmummy, thank you for the articles. I've been trying to seach for articles that has pictures of cervical discharge but couldn't find any. Your articles really help. According to my ovu app, I'm supposed to ovulate tomorrow, which means I should be getting smileys from my OPKs today or yesterday, I just tested, negative. I think ovulation is late this month again...sigh...

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