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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    ebichan: because i think your cycle is regular so your gynae is confident about you doing naturally. and i think you have been trying for less than 6 months?
    no worries if in doubt, you can always go change doctor

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Poohy - How old are you? Dr chew's first consultation about $200+ bah including the tentex and my med. Dragontail - Am I right? Anyway I remembered Dr Chew's prices were very reasonable for a private doc at Glen E. Or maybe because I was comparing him to Dr Chan.

    Ebichan - I was 34 when I was trying to concieve-ing. And my hubby who smokes is 3 years older. Dr Chan asked us go sperm test, HSG test, IUI (failed) and more IUI after - But in the end we only did 1 x IUI and the sperm test and HSG test. In the end went with Doc Chew with the results as proven My period is regular, and usually lasting 5 - 6 days. But I also did traditional chinese medicine towards the later part too.

    Thelay - Your doc delivers at all hospitals? Usually docs have a preferred hospital so you can ask. For instance, Dr Chan and Dr Chew only deliver at Glen E. Dr Benjamin Tham and Dr Paul Tseng deliver at Thomson Medical Center or Mount A (But they prefer Thomson Medical Center cuz their clinic is located at Thomson Medical Center). For me - I would prefer to deliver where the doc's clinic is based. So any last min complication - Doc can easily use their 2 legs. No need to think of traffic. Also - I reckon they know the people at the hospital better if their clinic is based at that hospital (so can get better treatment)! Also, where you deliver will most likely be where the pediatrician is based (if you are getting your gynae to recommend pediatrician for you).

    Dragontail - Ya I think KK is THE place for complications. My friend's friend's son had a heart condition at birth and they immediately transferred him to KK for further treatment. But I heard all the good docs at KK (other than Dr John Tee) have left. dont know whether true or not .

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Hi Quincy
    Thank you for saying that. True I've been trying to concieve less than 6 months. But thought my age should be a concern for all range of issues.
    Anyway. Yes will ganbatte.

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    gnissim, oh the jabs will cause cycle to haywire? Hmm... My past post-O HCG booster shots have also prolonged my cycle; therefore now my cycle also a bit off. But well, since I have put a foot in, cycle prolonged or hormones changed also dont care already.... just go with the flow. I guess never try never know. At my age, I would say I've nothing to lose :P

    poohy, I read somewhere not to read too much into SA. Maybe the "standard" of traditional chinese medicine and clinical results are just very different. I cite another example. My sis, whom is going through IVF now, was also seeing Dr Wu (so was her hubby). She doesnt think my sis has any issue (but she has blocked tubeS) and she thinks her hubby has sperm problem (but SA result came out fine). I can only conclude traditional chinese medicine (Dr Wu or others) cant do all. For some issues/conditions, yes traditional chinese medicine works wonder, though may be slow and steady. Therefore I feel one gotta choose the treatment that's best suited for her/his condition. Dr Chew's subsequent visit is $50 for consultation. First timer I think a little bit more. Better to call to fix a date. I talked to him directly over the phone the first time. Told him a bit of my background and he asked me to see him straight away as that afternoon wasnt full. Tel 64726828. Glen E Medical Centre. #06-05.

    ebichan, you must have mentioned... but sorry I'm trying hard to remember... how long have you been trying to concieve-ing? You see, I have been trying to concieve-ing since last year April I think. So from then till I've started with Dr Chew in Jun13, it has been more than a year. That's more than "try natural for 3 months". And my history is I could conceive. But I couldnt keep them both. So I dont think my gynae will ask me to "try natural for another few months". Therefore everyone of us is different. I trust that this series of treatment is customised and catered for me based on what I've experienced. So what works for me may probably not work for you. Having said that, there are always alternative gynae's advice if you think you want to hear/know more other than your current doc

    This Fri my gynae will teach me how to jab myself on the tummy. I guess there wont be surprise because I've seen the process. Earlier this year I went with my sis for a holiday. Clashed with the time she was supposed to start jabbing herself for IVF. She packed the medicine in a thermal flask (yes those medicine needs refrigeration) with ice. When on board plane, we asked for some more ice cubes from the crew because the old ones were melting. When we checked in hotel that night, I filmed the jabbing process for her because she said she wanted her man to see it too (the trip was just us both). My sis is scared of needles. I told her I could do it for her, no sweat (of course I scared l.a! Poke someone with needle is not something I've ever done). I mean I had to act brave for her. At first she said ok. But then she said she would do it herself instead because there would be more to come and I cant be doing it for her everytime. I told you the situation was quite tense . Haa the hotel aircon was so cold but she was sweating from tension and trembling away. While she was holding the syringe and pinching her tummy, all ready, I kept telling her she could do it.... be brave...it would be over soon. And there she did it. Gave her a big hug.
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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    littlej- you see dr chew for how long before you bfp? and did he ask you do any more test? i only got my hubby sperm analysis report from the IUI.

    dragontail - okay shall discuss with hubby tonight and if okay then call tomorrow for appt.

    hugs to your sister also...i'm quite hesitant about jabbing myself . somemore if need to jab, gonna do before my gal wake up in morning or after she sleeps at night. But heard all these jab gonna do at around same timing every day.dont know can make it or not.
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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    poohy: not sure if you r aware, can go down any family clinic to ask the doc to jab for you. but of course must make payment for that
    i guess now maximum is $10 each visit for jabbing. ^$^
    last time the clinic i work for is $8 per visit of jabbing

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    ebichan: i think because you r seeing gynae instead of fertility specialist now is it? to be frank, gynaes are more interested in pregnant women. and they are less specialized in fertility treatment. this is just my opinion from the gynaes that i have consulted.
    i understand your concern about age but just in my opinion this is the common thinking of gynae. very commonly they ask people to try till 6 months. for my 1st few gynaes, is like i suspect almost every couple they see they will say like this, irregardless of their age
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    Ebichan, quincy put out a good point. Fertility specialist is different from a gynae. The former is more willing to try treatments. After my last mc with a Kandang Kerbau Hospital gynae, he only told me to try again after one cycle and sayonara. He didnt suggest scans or checks of any sort. Not wrong. Because he is a gynae who helps you when you're preggie. If the agenda is seeking treatments for trying to concieve, then a gynae probably cant do the job as thorough.

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Hi ladies, any of you here used preseed or conceive plus and successfully got pregnant? thought of using it this round but want to see got any reviews on it. Also it is "messy"?

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    angel84: messy... they are a little sticky and can go all over my hands if i am clumsy. and it can flow out all over after bd. but they are water based so they can be washed off with soap

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    wow.. thread moving fast today.. hopefully can chase away some monday blues with all this sharing?

    missy10 - update update tomorrow ya? so excited for you... see if you know too early like me.. no more guess-the-gender excitement ...


    poohy - you got lucky with iui once... I believe you can still do it with iui or naturally.. ivf is really invasive & very painful on the body.. give dr wu a chance to help you & also hubby? by the way, at each iui.. when you collect hubby's 'washed' sperm.. the clinic/lab must give you the sperm analysis.. it must state before wash sperm results & after wash sperm results. I got that at every single iui I did. =) you can show dr wu the SA results?

    ebichan - standard gynae & fertility specialist are different. when I wanted to embark on my ivf journey I called up a few gynaes.. first thing I ask was does the doc specialise in iui or ivf? Some replied no.. so I knew they can't help my problems... (by the way, I am 31 this yr & I have done iui x 6 & ivf x 2). dont go into ivf unless doc tells you you & hubby have problems.. you have a very regular cycle (28/29 days is the norm & ideal) so try to catch the good bd dates!

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    happilymarried: they dont have something like selection of good sperms in iui right? just for my learning

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    dragontail - hehehe... it could be gonal f or puregon? both are same.. only difference is the dosage dispensing amount on the pen... & wow! your sis very brave! what you said is very true.. all the sweats & trembling.. will definitely go thru.. so keep thinking of your future baby when jabbing.. also 1 way is freeze small packets of ziplog bags with water (those you get when you buy rings or earrings).. before jabbing, press the mini ice pack on belly to numb.. wipe with alcohol swab then pinch belly with small towel.. & jab. trust me, 37.5 is very painless 100 or 150 is the worst.. cuz takes longer to jab.. we are here for you if you feel moody or need to rant ya?

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    hi happilymarried, yar i just got the report from gynae today. the % of good ones dropped over the years. They also did compare to the time when i was successful and it was higher then.....now is like getting worse. Will show dr wu the next time i see her...anyway i still need to attend the ivf counselling first before i decide whether to proceed. all these should take a few mths also...so got time

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    quincy - yup.. iui washing is like separating the sperms from the other semen fluid... then separating all the motile sperms from those that are not good (cant swim, bad tails, bad heads, etc). so what doc inject past the cervix are the best sperms from hubby!
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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Quincy: yeap same traditional chinese medicine doc! I think my case is bad. I see him diligently for 6 mths before my first bfp. But sadly lost it. N another 2 cycle with him I got my second bfp again. Ya true. Need to be very hardworking to go always. My hubby see him 4 time a month. then after 3 mths my hubby sa is ok n dont have to see him so often. Only like once in 2 weeks.

    Poohy: ohhh. If tts the case then discuss with your hubby n go for it?

    Dragontail: yes. The more jab you take the more haywire it will be. But I think since it for egg quality maybe it dont affect much. Jia you dear girl!!
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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Quote Originally Posted by happilymarried View Post
    quincy - yup.. iui washing is like separating the sperms from the other semen fluid... then separating all the motile sperms from those that are not good (cant swim, bad tails, bad heads, etc). so what doc inject past the cervix are the best sperms from hubby!
    really?? so i can get good sperms from iui? but my gynae say getting good sperms is only in ivf.
    so my gynae "bluff" me?

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    poohy - hope dr wu can prescribe some herbs for hubby! but dont forget you r in 2ww now ... miracles can happen... your hubby's twin dream.. haha... I would love to see how a husband handles twins!! so far none of my friends have twins.. wonder how much would it change the man.. hehehe

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    i think traditional chinese medicine for men only see whether men got energy to "do it" n overall health ok or not ..

    i asking my hubby to go with me to see dr wu this sunday... he said ok (shocked cos normally he wont go one, somemore is 2hrs waiting time lol) dont know need to sign in for him or not

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    quincy - hahaha! iui is best sperms (not only one) ivf is erm.. usually 1 sperm? also I would pay a little more for icsi (shooting the sperm directly into the eggie). lab will suggest icsi too for better results n not to waste the cycle...

    actually.... i have always wanted to find out more.. when I went thru ivf.. I wanted to separate my eggs into half.. half use icsi... the other use natural fert (1 egg & let good spermies swim n fert on their own) but I was also worried what if those on their own dont't fert.. then how?? so in the end... I just went for all icsi.. cuz.. afterall iui so many times fail... think I need icsi... heh..
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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    Quote Originally Posted by quincy1986 View Post
    angel84: messy... they are a little sticky and can go all over my hands if i am clumsy. and it can flow out all over after bd. but they are water based so they can be washed off with soap
    Quincy, so you think is effective? Did you get Preggy with it? Sorry im new here so I'm not sure who's already preg and who's still trying to concieve.

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    Angel: me use before, But not preggy due to other issues. Welcome to join us! Here is a mix of those trying to concieve n some graduated ones

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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    quincy the problem with IUI is...still need to depend a lot on the egg and sperms whether they can meet and fertilise. No doubt they send in the best troops but if they dont meet and fertilise,also no use. Thats when IVF comes in handy....direct force them to meet and gel up. After that insert them back and pray that they continue to be everlasting and grow ...=) hahaha

    hmm maybe next Tues i go see dr wu again with the report and see what she says. And yeah, i will assume i'm in 2ww now! no more housework! geeee.....and today my mind totally not at work..physically here only. opss...hope i can get better concentration at work tomorrow!

    Angel - yar here mixture of preggies and non preggies. Preggies like Happilymarried, Littlej, Missy10, qnissim, wantonmee, etc. In fact i think more bfp than non bfp.haha...
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    Re: We are trying to concieve-ing!

    i bought the conceiveplus and used once this cycle....quite okay bah considering that i dont have much EWCM...so hoping this conceiveplus can help.

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    thelay - thanks for the info on fbi.. I tried calling their hotline many times today but no one answers.. I wonder if its worth it to make use of just paediatric treatments & a few other stuff that's not delivery related.. i cant deliver in Thomson Medical Center...

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