if you can, drink papaya fish soup everyday. that is what i did but of course i also latch on & express.
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Hi mummies, need some advice.
Currently I'm in day 20 since giving birth. Baby refuses to latch coz I intro bottle feeding too early n she prefers that as she dont't need to work for her milk. Thus, I've been pumping at least 5-6times a day since day 4. Initially didn't buy pump coz thot I'll be latching. Anyway my problem now is my milk supply is very low. Initial 3 days only droplets then was able to pump 20-40ml in total for next one wk. I started taking fenugreek at day 15 n now my milk supply has increased to about 60-80ml. It's not very constant. I can see the increase but I just want to know the increase in milk is a slow progress? Or fenugreek is not much of a help to me? I've been drinking papaya fish soup twice a wk, soup at every lunch n dinner n about 3litres of longan red date water, milo, warm water. I'm not sure what else I can do to increase milk supply. I have also been massaging daily. Pls advice on what else I can do. Thanks in advance.
if you can, drink papaya fish soup everyday. that is what i did but of course i also latch on & express.
I have same prob. Baby never latch on. Due to short nipples. So gave formula n now she reject the breast.
My lactation consultant says latching is the fastest way to increase milk. Pumping needs to be done every three hours. I didn't have the energy for that.
For fenugreek you must also drink lots of water.
But breast milk is demand n supply. If your baby on formula Then likely breast milk supply will reduce.
All the best!!
Is there really no way to do exclusive EBM for baby? No way to improve then maintain supply? Currently I pump every 2-4hrs occasionally 5hr for night
Just latch and pump after latch will help increase supply. Even after latch you might not pump out anything initially but will slowly increase in supply ... I faced the same problem after baby admitted for jaundice as drank formula too , you have to b persistent on latch n pumping but very tiring Loh. Try not to give formula unless due to medical issue if not it will not up your supply. baby will not latch well if start bottle early, so we will face some difficulty when starts to resume back to latching ... Try your best and not stress out as baby is also learning to latch well. You can do it!!!
May I know how long does it take to see the increase in amt pumped out after latching? I am trying on off for 2 weeks but seemed the same. Can't latch her every feed bcoz she is giving me sore nipple.
Are you using dual or single pump?? If you intend to pump for long better to invest a good dual pump, dual pump can let you produce more milk compare to single. As breast milk is demand and supply so when you pump make sure you empty both side of your breast so can trick your body to think that not enough milk for baby must produce more
Andieluv2 is this your first baby?? If first baby cos your nipple is still not used to baby sucking that the reason y you have sore nipple, bear with the pain try to let baby continue to latch, it will get over soon once your nipple is toughen up it will be ok, and try to apply nipple cream on your nipple and air your nipple as often as possible.
dont give up on breast feeding, you are giving your baby the best gift in the world
I also have problem latching on baby. Spent a lot to extend hospital stay so that I can get help n see lactation con twice after discharge to make sure baby latch in also. Ultimately when reach home baby still dont want end up would struggle for almost 1 1/2 hr to latch. And lengthen his feeding time from 3 hrly to almost 5 hr. I gave up because I think to make sure he eat well is more important. I pump diligently 3 hrly even at midnight. Forgot to say, I did latch on for about 10 days before I give up. Baby has been doing nipple suck n doesn't gain weight. After I realize it my supply has also drop. Can only hand express 20 ml for both side. I pimp diligently since then. Now I can pump about 130 both side naturally without taking any supplement. Now my supply is enough for baby to drink. I m still cont my effort b look forward to see more increase, it takes time but be patient. Everyday been drinking fresh ebm. Try to use electric dual pump. It help greatly n less tiring. Jia you n wish you success on journey of bf.
Thanks mummies! Currently I'm trying to pump every 3-4hr n supply enough for baby to drink day time, at night drink fm. Will continue n hope supply increase so that it's enough for whole day intake
Yea its my first baby. My sore nipple osbgone. But its really bery tiring to keep latching het plus its disheartening everytime i latch her she seemsvto be still hungry. So now i only lat h her about 1-2times and pump 4hrly. Think its psychological. Whn i an relac i pump slighyly more. Like in the middle of the night if i got sone sleep and not so tired i can get more output. Guess all this low flow maybe due ti stress that i'm putting in myself as i an a person that worries alot.Originally Posted by soapsoap:686272
So far i am able to give her ebm during tgh day and 1 feed of Fm at night. Some days i go fully n breast milk.
Hey mummies, I gave birth in April this year, baby going to 5 mths in a few days' time. Right from the start I was pumping exclusively cos I thought I had short nipples, imagine the first time I tried to let baby latch was on 3rd wk. After some check i dont have short nipples but stilll, dont really latch very often cos I maintain schedule to pump at regular intervals.
Anyway, my point is continue to pump consistently for those who r not latching. I pump 90% of the time and the supply will slowly build up, eventually more than what baby needs so you can have excess for storage
Exclusive pumping is not easy to maintain supply. My friend and I did pumping and latching and we managed to feed our babies full breast milk until now (10 months old). Another friend did exclusive pumping and she had to supplement with formula since baby is about 3 months old. 1 or 2 formula feeds a day.
I also had short nipples but I didn't really care about it and let baby suck all he wants and now my nipples are longer. He can shape it to the length he wants. haha.
And breastfeeding is a struggle at first. Its normal. Its a really battle of perseverance for me. There are more than once that I feel like giving up. I struggled for 5 months. When he's 5 months old, breastfeeding starts to get smoother and now, he's an expert.
All the best!
i really salute those mummies who pump exclusively.
I have to pump during the day at work and i struggled! couldn't pump enough for baby's intake daily cos my nipples were not used to the pump. but after a while, guess my nipples 'toughened up' and i was able to yield enough. =)
I also wanna fully.bf.my girl but my.mum is.not aupportive.of.bf-ing. Everytime i latch her then.after.awhile she.cries and my mum will say she didnt have enouhh and went to thaw.my ebm for.her. Then after latch sure.not.much to pump out for.her.nxt feed then in the end have to give.fm. Thats the reason why i dont usually latch.at hm. I rather pumo out to let my mum see that she drink certain amt so as to shut.her up that baby is crying not for hunger but for something else. It sucks to be in a family without any support for bf and will.only add stress to.the mother. Guess my supply.is always low (pumping about 80-100 only per 4hrs) bcoz of all these unnecessary stress. So sick and.tired.of her.. Sometimes i just wish to.move hm as i am.staying with my mum now, who helps to take care.of.my girl. I promise.i wont do this to my girl.nxt time whn she bcums a mother.herself.
Are you a stay at home mum? great that it.gets smoother you at 5 months but i dont have so much.leave to wait for it to smoothen out. Only 4mths maternity leave. And to.persist on to give her as much ebm as i could i even thought of taking.no pay leave so i could breast feed her.till 5 months at least. Singapore is such a non-condusive plc to promote bf and with the current wrkibg lifestyle. Its just.so difficult to wrk and exclusive bf esp whn you have.low supply like.me. Sorry for complaining. But am just too fed up with all these...Originally Posted by lyra:688763
it will be good if you let out yr angers by words instead of bottling up. by the way, why are you not pumping 3 hourly instead.
for myself, i am lucky to be a successful exclusive ebm. but i still do latch when im lazy. initially i thought baby sucking might not be able to promote more milk since he always fall asleep fast. so not able to trick my body to get more milk. i pump instead, but of course, so diligently that even night time also:-) i also think a good brand dual pump will be good. and also to stimulate a few let down will be good. if no let down, pump for very long each session will only give sore nipples
Tried.3 hr pumping initially.for the.first.month. But its.really tiring me out. Which in turn will cause.my flow.to.drop too. Like a vicioua cycle. Hence i stick to a 4hrly cycle so i could get enough.rest roo. Agree that more let down is impt. I am using PISA. so i guess its a pretty good.pump . Anyway.i will just keep psycho-ing myaelf that i have alot of.milk and persevere on.
I'm also trying to express milk before i go back to work. Think i started quite late on pumping since I'm now only 1 month left to go back to office.
I bought phillips Advent manual pump and it's very tiring to use it. Any idea which brand is good for electronic pump?
personally will give my vote to medela:-) choose dual pump
I tried avent manual for my first pregnancy too. Failed to increase supply efficiently. Whole day only pump 300ml. Now using Medela Pisa, less tired n better in stimulating to get more milk. Now whole day around 1100ml at 11 weeks after birth. Invest in a good pump !!
Hi all! Ermmm when you feed ebm w bottles, the bottles tend to get oily.. What do you use to cleanse the milk bottles and teats? Do you use those pigeon liquid cleanser etc or just use normal dish washing detergent? Thanks!
i use tollyjoy liquid cleanser for the first 3 mths since baby are more "fragile". now using normal mama liquid detergent.
i realise tollyjoy might not be really effective in cleaning oily bottle , so you can use more liquid or pour hot water into the bottle to get rid of the oil before using steraliser. i realise bottle using steraliser might get yellowish in the long run compared as using hot water to steralise.